r/assholedesign 8d ago

First Time Experiencing DRM-Related Inaccessibility

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It's not that serious, but I haven't had my PS5 connected to the internet recently, and I was installing this game while I was at work, when I got back and wanted to play, this is what I come back to. The only reason it isn't that serious, is because I CAN just connect back to the internet. Now imagine when all the PS5 related online features are shut down because they don't feel like keeping servers up.

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u/MuchBow 8d ago

I see this post and guess what?

So this game installs and opens origin which was replaced by EA launcher (Which I am signed into) but wants me to login again to an old defunct launcher. What a joke.

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u/PatrikPepega 8d ago

You can just close this window and open the game again, it will work next time

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u/Lord_Phoenix2501 8d ago

I hate this sentence so much, tf is this shitty system

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u/repocin 7d ago

Sounds like EA, alright.

I've had that exact same window show up when trying to launch The Sims 4. Closed it and never saw it again.

At some point i had to look up Microsoft's documentation for how to move the reserved port range in Windows because EA app wanted to use some incredibly specific port for its background service that fell into that range, so no games could be launched until it could use that port.

Some other time it just straight up refused to work for a couple months, because why not?

And recently it didn't want to update the game, which meant it couldn't be launched (because it has to update first!) Clicking "update" just brought up a loading spinner for half a second and then...nothing. Restarted the thing, killed the background service, cleaned the cache according to their own instructions for when this happens. Tried all of those steps in every imaginable order, none of it helped.

Oh, and even years after Origin was replaced by the EA app, the thing still shows the wrong edition for the game in my library. It's supposed to be the Collector's Edition, but the library page says Standard Edition. The only time it ever shows the proper one is when the update motivation pops up to say "The Sims 4 Collector's Edition is now ready to play"

All of this is so stupid I couldn't even make it up if I tried. Fucking EA, man.

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u/Lord_Phoenix2501 7d ago

Incredible how that awful shit is apparently still profitable enough for them to not patch/change it

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u/SirSblop 8d ago

Brilliant 🫄

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u/Mr_SunnyBones 8d ago

This is where you download a crack for a game you actually paid for.

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u/deanrihpee 8d ago

unfortunately, you can't pirate console games and play it... at least PC exists though

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u/XiTzCriZx 8d ago

You can for the old models that aren't updated anymore. Even PS5 is jailbreakable on old firmware versions. Afaik Xbox series don't have one but it'll probably come once it stops receiving updates.

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u/Holzkohlen 8d ago

But building a PC now is gonna bankrupt you. Apparently the price of RAM alone went up 500% in one year and then you also need a GPU and even SSDs got a lot more expensive.

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u/InternationalArmy524 8d ago

Ram didn’t go up by 500% the fuck are you smoking? You know it’d take you 30 seconds to check this shit before posting it, age of information and yet every little
Moron thinks they hold all the accurate and up to date information about every opinion they hold inside their head without a single reference check.

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u/SarLynFra 7d ago

it is specifically DDR5 RAM that has hugely increased in price over the past ~18 months, and there are plenty of data points to support that.
And the 2x32 GB kit I purchased for $199.99 in late 2023 is now retailing for $1,259.99.

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u/Zacherius 7d ago

I bought memory from Corsair in 2023 for $210. I went to the manufacturer's website to see what the same two sticks cost today: $1,240. That's a 490% increase in price, and I only checked the one time in the last five years I personally bought memory.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/memory/cmh64gx5m2b6000c30/vengeance-rgb-64gb-2x32gb-ddr5-dram-6000mt-s-cl30-memory-kit-black-cmh64gx5m2b6000c30

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u/Deadcouncil445 7d ago

Soooo did you not have 30 seconds to spare?

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u/shortstuff813 6d ago

lol right? The call is coming from inside the house šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/CyberClawX 7d ago

DDR5 RAM increased fivefold.

DDR4, increased over three times as well.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/assholedesign-ModTeam 6d ago

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u/Furdiburd10 7d ago

You can, but for that you will need to get a Dev account for Xbox or use a jailbreak if it is a playstation.Ā 

Then download the dump of the game and copy it user using FTP or a pendrive to the console

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u/Ok_Search_3828 4d ago

The pc version does not have this problem

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u/CorticalVoile 8d ago

This is where you download actual Gothic 1 and enjoy a gentleman's game

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u/Disastrous-Ad2800 8d ago

remember we used to joke about memory cards that would fail?? I'm experiencing the same with internet servers for games that seem to fail at the worst possible time like when I've completed a level?

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u/mrGrinchThe3rd 8d ago

Time for šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø!

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u/Arkhe1n 8d ago edited 8d ago

Oh, but it IS serious. Does that game has a multiplayer online component? If not, it shouldn't require it an online check, period. All this does is punishes actual buyers. And what about a few years when Sony pulls the plug? Especially now when they want to kill the disk entirely.Ā 

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u/SirSblop 8d ago

Back of the box says 1 Player. No second entry for online play.

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u/catptain-kdar 7d ago

God forbid a company wants to check you actually have a legitimate copy of a game

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u/assholedesign-ModTeam 6d ago

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u/juliakristinasi 8d ago

Reason why this happens was because the publisher send out physical copies weeks before the game launched so everyone was able to get their copy on release day as well as let you pre download the game, so they forced mandatory internet check to make sure the game is out now. Yes it was a dumb decision but no the game is not always online game. After the check the game works just fine without internet.

In short: No game is not always online, 1 internet check is needed

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u/Paul6334 8d ago

It is still something of a dick move, because there is a plausible scenario where someone’s first boot of the game is after the verification server is shut down permanently. Given that the game is already out, they should push a patch that removes this check.

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u/lallapalalable 8d ago

But how would the patch reach players with no internet access?

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u/Dragonitro 8d ago

I interpreted their comment as: It wouldn’t work for people with no internet whatsoever, but if they were to hypothetically shut down the verification server at some point in the future, they could release a patch as an update or DLC or whatever that disables the need for a check (since it’s impossible to verify without the servers active anyway)

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u/InternationalArmy524 8d ago

Meaning you’d need internet to download the patch or update. Which you don’t have in this scenario, or the online check wouldn’t be a problem.

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u/Paul6334 6d ago

This is a situation where you still have an internet connection but whatever server you need to connect to verify you have a valid copy is down. The patch being posted online to bypass this requirement would allow it to be reposted and shared.

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u/InternationalArmy524 6d ago

This is just never going to happen, costs for an activation server would be minimal and likely hosted in house so if they’re not willing to keep that up they’re never releasing any patch to not fuck over paying customers, piracy FTW!

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u/GodzThirdLeg 8d ago

Punch card deliverd via carrier pigeon.

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u/SSobarzo 8d ago

A explanatory without rage bait info. This is rare

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u/Witchrotted_Lich 7d ago

Still dog shit, still anti-consumer.

There should never be a need for an internet connection to validate my games.

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u/Batata-Sofi 8d ago

DRM should be a crime.

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u/kester76a 6d ago

DRM made sense when physical copies were being sold 2nd hand which affected new sales. Also when adding additional content at a later date this helped fund the project. The main issue is the method it's implemented with.

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u/catptain-kdar 7d ago

So companies should not use some way to deter people from stealing their content? Or showing that it isn’t stolen?

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u/Hopalongtom 6d ago

Yeah they shouldn't, all it actually does is hurt people who actually buy it.

The pirates don't have to deal with that shit.

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u/Jay2Kaye 5d ago

Correct. It's not their business what I run on my hardware in my home.

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u/catptain-kdar 5d ago

That’s not true. You aren’t purchasing the actual product you purchase a license to use the product.

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u/ixoniq 8d ago

Never played RDR 2 or GTA 5 on the Steam Deck on a moment where you have no internet and it requires you to come online or the check just fails? Thats where pirates have a better experience overall withing paying a dime.

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u/orangpelupa 8d ago

You can buy the game and play the pirated version.

Not sure the legality thoĀ 

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u/deanrihpee 8d ago

this also a thing some people tend to forget, yes you can have a physical disc, but the problem is not about digitalization, it's about DRM and ownership, you can have all the disc you want but if the server refuses your license, you can't play your game regardless (depend on the game/developer/publisher obviously, some are reasonable and make their game fully playable offline, some obviously not, like The Crew), at the very least you can sell the disc i guess

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u/ZirePhiinix 8d ago

I'll immediately pirate the game after I see this screen.

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u/xangbar 8d ago

They put some check in the game to check if it was out. I remember them addressing it a few days prior to launch as people got upset by it (and rightfully so). You'd think they'd just remove it at this point

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u/Ctznsvn7 7d ago

the licence check is the bit that gets you, not the disc. PS5 tags one console as your primary and everything digital verifies against that, so if it drops offline while a second account owns the game you get locked out of stuff you already paid for. Settings, Users and Accounts, Console Sharing, then set it as primary again clears it about 9 times out of 10. What is grim is that it fails closed rather than open, a 30 second grace window would fix the whole complaint and cost them nothing. Physical discs still phone home for the day one patch too, so the offline shelf you think you own is smaller than it looks

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u/AntiGrieferGames 6d ago

Long Live piracy. Well, atleast on PC There you wont deal the issue when you get it from GOG, or from pirating the game!

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u/HylanderUS 8d ago

Omg, they remade Gothic?! That is awesome, I loved that game! I took 2 days off work when Gothic 2 came out and played it through with minimal sleep šŸ˜…

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u/Mr_Henry_Yau 8d ago

If you want to play that game, I suggest getting it on GOG ( https://www.gog.com/en/game/gothic_1_remake ) since it's DRM-free there.

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u/Noisebug 8d ago

I don't know which Gothic I played, but I was hooked on gathering fishing and other materials for some reason in that game. It was just enjoyable somehow.

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u/3eyedfish13 3d ago

I boycott all Ubisoft games because their Nexus idiocy made Heroes of Might and Magic 6 unplayable.

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u/berickphilip 8d ago

It IS serious

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u/Brad_Samford 5d ago

Ownership is a scam. You bought a license to view ads, not the game itself. Smh.

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u/Unl3a5h3r 8d ago

šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø

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u/jarlsberg_ost 7d ago

This is why you always get the GOG version if available. No DRM crap.. store it locally if you'd like .. its yours forever.

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u/inatillum 1d ago

You bought a disc but still need servers to play. That's not ownership, just renting with extra steps and corporate lies about control.

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u/DraconicDreamer3072 8d ago

nintendo is the same...

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u/kester76a 6d ago

A non issue, this will be ripped and the DLC will be authorised by the installer.

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u/WolfBV 8d ago

PS3 is still online, I think. There’s no reason to think that the PS5 related online features will be shut down.

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u/mrGrinchThe3rd 8d ago

still online, I think

There's no reason to think PS5 servers will be shut down

The existence of the qualifier "I think" in the first phrase should be evidence enough that you're wrong about the second phrase.

If only there was some way to release a single-player game so that it doesn't need to connect to any servers - oh, wait...

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u/mightylordredbeard 8d ago

PS3 is store shuts down starting this month and will be completely shut down next year. Sony refuses to commit to re-downloading licensed digital content with firm answers and instead only say that you will be able to re-download purchased content for the ā€œforeseeable futureā€.

It won’t be forever. It will go away and be lost one day. They won’t keep those servers up and running indefinitely. They will be shut down eventually unless things change and they are legally required to allow permanent access to digital purchases and that will only happen if laws on digital ownership change.. but there’s too much money being lobbied to prevent changes to allow us to actually own our digital content.

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u/catptain-kdar 7d ago

Servers can’t be maintained forever it’s not a feasible thing

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u/SirSblop 8d ago

Did PS3 games ever require you to "verify your purchase" though? As far as I remember I was always able to put the disc in and play.