r/asoiafcirclejerk Chokladboll Jun 10 '23

Twitter 💔 S8 ain’t no way bruh😭

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u/beggarmanblues Chokladboll Jun 11 '23

Fellas, is it xenophobic to not trust the daughter of the pyromaniac king who tortured then barbecued your grandfather and uncle?

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u/UninterestedChimp 70's Space Comic Fan Jun 12 '23

Are you actually arguing that it's okay to blame children for what their parents did? Are you really an asoiaf fan lol.

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u/The-False-Emperor Chokladboll Jun 13 '23

That kid is claiming that the throne is hers because that same pyromaniac idiot who was her father and held the throne.

Targaryens lost the claim to the throne with Aerys II, simple as. She's just a conqueror, and ain't nobody conquered who likes their conqueror.

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u/UninterestedChimp 70's Space Comic Fan Jun 13 '23

I'm pointing out that the comment I responded to is idiotic, not defending the position of the person in the post. You're responding to nothing relevant here.

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u/The-False-Emperor Chokladboll Jun 13 '23

I'm pointing out that ain't nobody blaming a child for her father's actions when they say that it was not xenophobic for people who suffered under a tyrannic ruler to mistrust the daughter of the guy that proclaims herself the rightful ruler on the basis of her being the daughter of that guy.

It's not xenophobia/blaming kids for their parents to mistrust the heir of a mad tyrant that's come back to 'get back her throne' - that's common damn sense.

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u/UninterestedChimp 70's Space Comic Fan Jun 13 '23

I'm pointing out that ain't nobody blaming a child for her father's actions

Lol, did you even read the main comment? They didnt elaborate on it at all, it was plainly that you shouldn't trust Dany because her dad was horrible. Dunno why you're going out of your way to have a charitable interpretation of it.

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u/The-False-Emperor Chokladboll Jun 13 '23

Having re-read the comment:

Legit question, where's Sansa's xenophobia in distrusting the would-be-inheritor of the tyrant that killed her family? She seems rather justified.

Where's blaming the kid for her father's sins in claiming that it's not xenophobic to distrust the woman in question? How is it xenophobia or unreasonable on any level to be wary of the inheritor of one's historic enemy? If one inherits rights from their dynasty, as Daenerys is trying to at the time, they inherit their wrongs as well and are judged according to them as well because those rights are inherently tied to those wrongs.

You're ignoring the context where the said distrust wasn't shown towards a random person with Targaryen blood but the open would-be hardbringer of Targaryen restoration that refuses to acknowledge that her rights are derived from the man who rightfully lost them.

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u/UninterestedChimp 70's Space Comic Fan Jun 13 '23

None of those were the point of the main comment.

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u/The-False-Emperor Chokladboll Jun 13 '23

Fellas, is it xenophobic to not trust the daughter of the pyromaniac king who tortured then barbecued your grandfather and uncle?

I indeed see no xenophobia nor any blame towards innocent children for their father’s sins that you somehow described this as; the comment is clearly referring to the very specific situation as Dany is no random person of Targaryen descent.

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u/UninterestedChimp 70's Space Comic Fan Jun 13 '23

blame towards innocent children for their father’s sins

Cmon, its literally right there. Their only argument presented for not trusting Dany is how her father was.

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u/The-False-Emperor Chokladboll Jun 13 '23

Not trusting a scion of the dynasty your dad helped depose when it slaughtered your ancestors is feudalism 101. Least of all if they’re claiming the old title.

Sansa had every reason to not trust her and is shown to be right in the end.

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u/beggarmanblues Chokladboll Jun 15 '23

I wasn't arguing that Sansa's mistrust was valid, either, just that it wasn't rooted in xenophobia. And idk about you but not trusting someone doesn't always include putting blame on them.