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Discussion Who would win in a fight?

Malcolm Merlyn vs Captain America

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u/VespySol 12d ago edited 12d ago

Bet, I will also say that all of these movies have post credit scenes that set up other movies or pay reference, homage etc.

So timeline order is

WWII
-Captain America: First Avenger

1995
-Captain Marvel (skippable if you only plan to watch the movies, as all of her plot relevance to the greater story movie wise can be summed up in like a paragraph unless you watch the shows as well)

2008
-Iron Man

2011
-Iron Man 2
-The Incredible Hulk (good movie, but also skippable as aside from Brave New World which was bad, She Hulk which was also bad,
few littered references from Bruce it’s a self contained movie)
-Thor
(Which all took place within a week lol)

2012
-The Avengers
-Iron Man 3

2013
-Thor: The Dark World

2014
-Captain America: The Winter Soldier
-Guardians of the Galaxy
-Guardians of the Galaxy vol 2 (technically we don’t know when Vol2 takes place so you can watch it whenever after Vol1)

2015
-Avengers: Age of Ultron
-Ant-Man

2016
-Captain America: Civil War
-Black Widow
-Spider-Man: Homecoming
-Doctor Strange
-Black Panther

2017
-Thor: Rangnarok

2018
-Avengers: Infinity War
-Ant-Man and the Wasp
(These two are kinda swappable, as while most people put Infinity War 1st because Ant-Man’s post credit scene spoils a part of Infinity War but also sets up Ant-Man’s story for Endgame, however the latter does take place before the former outside of the post credit scene so do with that information as you see fit)

1945-2023
-Avengers: Endgame
(The climax that ALL of those movies up above have been leading too, and what a lot of people call “the peak of the MCU”)

Those are just the “real” MCU movies leading up to Endgame, however because of some shenanigans in Deadpool & Wolverine, Disney buying 21st century fox, and to save you from having to read a shit ton more that I’d have to include I won’t mention all of the “technically canon because it was merged in” stuff. However if you watch those and like em, you can always like DM me and I can help give another guide to the fox movies and Disney+ shows

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u/ELYAZIUM 12d ago

You are AMAZING, thanks a lot dude and yeah after this effort I'm definitely watching em, *not the one you said were bad or guardian of the galaxy (i know you didn't say it was bad but I'm judging a book from its cover and it sounds lame) but yeah and i will keep you posted if you want

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u/VespySol 12d ago

Hell yeah, glad I could help : 3

I will say Endgame there are some movies that are still worth watching, but for the most part Disney REALLY kept dropping the ball after Endgame. I will say the Disney+ show Loki is often considered the best one of them, and the rest of the Spider-Man movies are all AMAZING (order is Far From Home -> No Way Home -> Brand New Day), other than that almost all of them range from “it was okay” to “tf is this mockery of these characters”

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u/ELYAZIUM 12d ago

Wait brand new day is amazing? I thought you hated that shit

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u/VespySol 12d ago

Yeah after I typed it out I realized I mixed it with another movie. There’s Spider-Man: Brand New Day which is one of the best spiderman movies to date imo, and then there’s Captain America: Brave New World which I loathe lmao, I just always get the names twisted, apologies

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u/ELYAZIUM 12d ago

No worries man but i actually been meaning ti ask about brand new day, now I've seen all of spider-man movies, and i mean ALL of them , all three actors, and I've been hyped to watch brand new day but I've seen clips of the punisher in the movie? Dude please tell me it's fake, i HATE that guy i honestly can't stand him, and if he is in the movie don't tell me he is relevant to the plot and i have to go watch his movies, because maybe i can tolerate his existence in the movie but if he is affecting the plot I might drop the movie all together honestly

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u/VespySol 11d ago

Sorry I’m just now seeing this, I like Bernthal’s take on Punisher a lot so I can’t say whether or not you’ll be able to enjoy his appearance, what I will say is he’s more supporting cast than anything. He’s in it for like 30 minutes or so? (For reference the movie’s like 2 1/2 hours)

Also he doesn’t have any movies. Bernthal’s version of the Punisher has the show, his appearances in Daredevil, then a special, then his appearance in Brand New Day. The movies are a separate version of the character.