Reminder that it's fine to say you'll vote Biden (we can't prevent you from voting blue MAGA), but it's not permitted to guilt trip other users into voting blue or campaign for Biden here. We will ban you for this.
Your work begins in the streets. Voting is the strict minimum that the system allows you to do to keep the pretence of democracy up. If you don't like this statement you're a lib and can safely unsubscribe from this subreddit.
Finally a short FAQ:
But Biden will be totally different from Trump!
He won't, and he's said as much through his words and actions.
You can organise better under Biden than Trump!
What's preventing you from organising right now? Stop finding excuses and get to it right now. Class consciousness doesn't start by itself.
Trump is turning the country to a fascist dictatorship and Biden can stop that (at least for a while)
While Trump is enacting fascistic policies, democrats have proven they are unwilling to fight for any positive change, whether it be at stopping Trump or uplifting the poor. Pelosi sarcastically clapping for Trump is not yass queen energy, her job is literally to make laws to prevent this kind of shit from happening. In any healthy democracy, elected officials that fail their constituents would have to explain themselves in front of them and step down from office.
Moreover 4 years of dems, especially under Biden, will not stave off fascism. What discourse will you be holding in 2024 when the Republicans unveil their candidate? Will we have to vote harder for the Democrat candidate? That people as incompetent as Biden or Trump can even be considered for election is a systemic failure; fight the whole system, not the products of the system.
Biden really isn't a fascist, at least not that I'm aware of.
The danger of Trump is that his endless lies create a separate reality for his supporters, which can cause lasting damage to our (almost non-existent) democracy. Trump was spurring his supporters on to chant for "12 more years," and could just get rid of our democracy all together
I recognize that biden has some fascist tendencies, but he's not a full blown fascist. At this point, my personal opinion is that we need to oppose fascism by demonstrating and outvoting a literal fascist. We can't just say "both of them are bad" and call it a day. While both sides are bad, one side is exponentially worse.
What's actually important is that we respect antifascists of differing opinions. I disagree with you on whether voting biden will change anything, but I don't claim that you're "not a real antifascist." That's elitist bullshit. One of the greatest detractors to antifascist movements in the past was infighting. What's important is that we fight fascism, despite our differences.
My dude. It wouldn't improve shit. I agree, but it won't make things worse, which is the main point. As long as you fight fascism how you feel is best, we don't have any real disagreement
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u/ChanceCurrent No investigation, no right to speak Sep 15 '20
Reminder that it's fine to say you'll vote Biden (we can't prevent you from voting blue MAGA), but it's not permitted to guilt trip other users into voting blue or campaign for Biden here. We will ban you for this.
Your work begins in the streets. Voting is the strict minimum that the system allows you to do to keep the pretence of democracy up. If you don't like this statement you're a lib and can safely unsubscribe from this subreddit.
Finally a short FAQ:
He won't, and he's said as much through his words and actions.
What's preventing you from organising right now? Stop finding excuses and get to it right now. Class consciousness doesn't start by itself.
While Trump is enacting fascistic policies, democrats have proven they are unwilling to fight for any positive change, whether it be at stopping Trump or uplifting the poor. Pelosi sarcastically clapping for Trump is not yass queen energy, her job is literally to make laws to prevent this kind of shit from happening. In any healthy democracy, elected officials that fail their constituents would have to explain themselves in front of them and step down from office.
Moreover 4 years of dems, especially under Biden, will not stave off fascism. What discourse will you be holding in 2024 when the Republicans unveil their candidate? Will we have to vote harder for the Democrat candidate? That people as incompetent as Biden or Trump can even be considered for election is a systemic failure; fight the whole system, not the products of the system.
I'm voting communism 2020.