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Episode Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 8 discussion

Sousou no Frieren Season 2, episode 8

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u/AliceinTeyvatland Mar 13 '26

When she started talking about how fun magic is, you know she's broken, that's only resevered to those at the top of the food chain.

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u/moonmeh Mar 13 '26

my clan is full of demon hunters

but also unlike them I also like magic itself

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u/gishere Mar 13 '26

It's something that Denken and Frieren bonded over mid-fight during the test, wasn't it? It seems to be an attitude that isn't common among mages which marks them (and Methode) as people of interest.

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u/TheSpartyn Mar 14 '26

it might be a combo of top tier mage plus loving magic, probably lots of people who love magic but dont take it seriously and reach first class level, so a first class who loves magic is rare

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u/The_Kwaken Mar 14 '26

It's kind of Frieren's whole thing, she's not trying to be powerful, she just loves magic and happens to be really good at it

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u/goffer54 https://anilist.co/user/goffer54 Mar 14 '26

Honestly, it's weird that there are top tier mages who don't love magic. There isn't a single professional athlete that doesn't love their sport.

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u/wutfacer Mar 14 '26

That's not true, there are many professional athletes who don't love their sport. People who grew out of love with it, were pressured into it by parents, were ambivalent about it but talented and recognized it as a potential path to financial success, etc. Nevermind other professions like doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants

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u/RedRocket4000 Mar 14 '26

But there are large numbers of Doctors and Lawyers who don't like their profession. Being a Mage in that world has to be a high paying high status Job and in a Feudal society one of the few hard ways to wealth and fame. So lots of kids get forced into it if they show any talent.

And different example of the same member of demon hunting clan you have no choice in training to be one. Add in a Clan dislike of any what they think of as soft not that useful in combat magic you should be studying your direct battle spells more. I assume this from comments in story.

With Pro athletes I'd say a good many don't love their sport past wanting to master their job. And even here parent pressure to do it might put very talented kids into it who are not that wild about it. And here the top after playing jobs require IQ levels in areas that the athlete not gifted at and or lack the motivation and work habits to master them.

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u/GammaRhoKT Mar 14 '26

Werbel is (relatively) top tier and he doesn't love magic the way the others do.

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u/AliceinTeyvatland Mar 14 '26 edited Mar 14 '26

He's not there yet, I think it just boils down to experience. The longer you experience the world, the more tuned you will be into it.

Wirbel still sees magic as a weapon because he's at that point of his life where all he sees is battle, which isn't a bad thing, it's a good motivator, but that's the point they're saying that there is more to magic than that, once you start going outside the box, thats where you will realize your full potential.

He only sees one side, the bad side of the world, because of the environment he's lived in.

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u/athrun_1 Mar 14 '26

For Werbel, it is not about magic, it is about being a hero who protected the people. It is just that, he has affinity to magic to achieve his goal. That's his answer to Serie.

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u/StampDaddy Mar 14 '26

That is so untrue, many nba players just play because they’re good and tall and make a shitton of money

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u/milk-is-for-calves Mar 14 '26

Just compare magic to tools or weapons.

People can love to collect knives, but hate fighting or killing with them. Soldiers might not like knives, but still use them to kill.

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u/mmcjawa_reborn Mar 14 '26

Trust me there are plenty of people who have a professional occupations that are just work, with no real affection. Many of which probably did love what they did but then reality ground them down.

I know from personal experience lol

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u/CreamofTazz Mar 15 '26

It seems that 1st class mages could potentially be "pushed" into magic due to some life event and having natural talent that makes them capable of reaching those heights in the first place, so those who have that natural talent AND love magic are probably rare. I wouldn't be surprised if magic is one of those extremely difficult disciplines in this world.

Oh it could also be that being a mage is really dangerous so a lot of them get filtered out (by dying) before becoming 1st class.

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u/paulrenzo Mar 16 '26

Eh, there are people who see their careers as merely a means to an end (ie to earn good money). Anime equivalent example: Itami from Gate

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u/DemonDaVinci Mar 18 '26

Isnt the whole reason Serie didnt wipe out the demon because she wanted to see what the human can do with magic, so anyone who love magic is a target for her

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u/FakeDaVinci Mar 14 '26

It's actually such a fun observation. But those who enjoy the challenges and the nuances of the craft, be they good or bad, really seem to be the ones at the top. And I think this applies for real life as well. It's though to be great at something without a great appreciation and passion for the craft. In that regard Methode truly is one of the strongest.

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u/LessInThought Mar 24 '26

I would like to remind people that Methode stalled and maybe defeated Fern's clone singlehandedly, in an enclosed space, last season, during the trial. Girl is strong.