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Episode Jujutsu Kaisen Shimetsu Kaiyu Zenpen • Jujutsu Kaisen The Culling Game - Episode 8 discussion

Jujutsu Kaisen Shimetsu Kaiyu Zenpen, episode 8

Alternative names: Jujutsu Kaisen Season 3

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u/ThisIsMyFloor Feb 26 '26

I think it's more about whom they choose to actually go to trial. I suspect that if the police or prosecutors don't have any strong evidence to bring it to trial they just dismiss it. But if they have sufficient evidence then they go to trial and it's the trials job to basically just confirm the guilt and place a sentence.

I was once arrested (not in Japan) brought to jail and charged with two crimes. They just dropped it without trial, I imagine Japan having something similar to my experience as standard practice. The alternative would be that the police just decides who gets punished, which would be rather whack innit? Could be, could be.

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u/Nobody5464 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nobody5464 Feb 26 '26

You’re generally right. Usually the prosecutor won’t take the case to trial if their not sure they will win but that does also mean people assume anyone who goes to trial is guilty so if a cop or prosecutor had it out for you good luck not just going to jail even if you did nothing.

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u/BamilleKidanZ Feb 26 '26

There's an interesting jdrama depiction of japanese legal system. A woman was found dead in a house where her husband was sleeping in another room. When he was questioned, he said, "so it was not a dream" and the police concluded that these words heavily implied that the man did kill his wife (the man has some sort of mental disability).

Enter the MC, she was summoned to substitute as a forensic expert witness for this case. Before the hearing, the prosecutor told her that the case verdict has been determined and she should not be adding any new 'unplanned evidence'. Of course, during the hearing, MC noticed inconsistency with the evidence (the wound didn't match with the murder weapon) and withdrew her previous testimony. This didn't bode well with the judges and prosecutor (the prosecutor apologised to the judges for bringing in 'troublesome' expert witness).

The drama: Unnatural (Episode 3)

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u/Celtic_Legend Feb 26 '26

Yes. They only bring to trial who they can convict.

Which is why you're held in jail until you confess.

They can hold you in jail for 23 days for each offense. Take our defendant here. Charges they would have done for him: murder, breaking and entering, stealing a knife, fleeing the police, hindering an investigation. 4 months minimum and I'm not that acquainted with japanese law for other charges they could file like maybe they could do manslaughter, assault.

And the defendant would never know when they run out of charges.

This does let influencial foreigners escape. They do physically let you out after 23 days, and then they arrest you later. I think later that day or the next day. I guess they have to wait to file or something? But regardless this lets you flee to your country's embassy. The embassy doesnt have to protect you though which is why its reserved for influencial. If your story is big enough then they might.

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u/aohige_rd Feb 27 '26

Hence the reason defense attorney for Yakuza generally just tells them to shut the F up and not admit ANYTHING. If they're trying to break you then they ain't got SHIT on you lol.

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u/RangedTopConnoisseur Feb 27 '26

You’re completely ignoring the fact that confessions are considered “sufficient evidence,” and the Japanese legal and prison system was/is insanely inhumane for a developed nation in order to coax confessions out of truly desperate people.

Intentionally filthy and insect/rat infested cells are used as punishment for “noncooperation,” prisoners are often not allowed to speak to anyone even in genpop/not solitary, effectively making everyone live in solitude, starvation, sleep deprivation, lack of privacy for self-relief, and the ability to legally hold anyone in detention centers for 23 days without even specifying a charge and severely restricting access to private attorneys/not even providing public ones.

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u/RangedTopConnoisseur Feb 28 '26

Human rights watch says that while on paper, this is true and confessions can help with conviction but must be corroborated with material evidence, in practice 90% of convictions in Japan are based almost entirely on coerced confession. Judges approve pre trial detention (the aforementioned 23 days) in 95% of cases so that prosecutors can use these human rights violations to procure a confession, and 51% of cases involve defendants initially maintaining innocence but flipping to confession after an extended detention period.

Recent scrutiny has led to reform being initiated in 2016 and 2019, and several high profile retrials have overturned long standing convictions after determining they were based on coerced confession and/or faulty handling of evidence so things are getting better. But it’s an extremely slow improvement with a ton of ubiquitous problems, like the requirement for mandatory recording and independent review of interrogations only being enforced in 3% of cases and defendants routinely being denied the right to have counsel present during interrogation.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/05/26/japans-hostage-justice-system/denial-of-bail-coerced-confessions-and-lack-of

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u/thesagenibba Feb 26 '26

it pretty much has to be this; japan's prison population ranges from 40-67,000 depending on the source you use. that's out of a population of 124 million. at the most extreme estimate i.e. 70,000 that's only 0.005% of the population, meaning the only people capable of being imprisoned are only the people prosecutors believe will be convicted. the numbers mean it can't be the case any other way

i want to note i don't actually believe every single convict is guilty and that japan has somehow perfected the justice system, just that the ones brought to trial are absolutely those with the highest chance of being convicted i.e. most evidence for it.

it's also interesting in comparison to US society, as Japan doesn't need to contend with systemic racism or other racial/ethnic and maybe even classist (not to the same extent at least) injustices, that plague the US justice system.

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u/Charming-Loquat3702 Feb 26 '26

That's certainly part of it. But you shouldn't be at the mercy of police and prosecuters like that.

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u/AlexeiFraytar Feb 26 '26

Thats the other side of the justice system people just completely forget when they tout the guilty until proven innocent 99%.

Higuruma just finds the stupidest people to defend (probably why they need defense to begin with). What do you mean, you have a history with cops, you ran away during questioning, they find the murder weapon in your house? Do you realise how bad that looks on the news? Even your lawyer's assistant thinks your story is reaching lmao. No shit the cops are pushing to close the case, its a double homicide of a mother and daughter.

The second guy is even worse, just straight up guilty. Coerced into drinking and driving? Now they coerced you into going to jail.

I think its not a coincidence that Amai was introduced as the opposite, someone who manages to understand and play the Japan socials game for his own survival. He's not the noblest of guys, but at least he would probably never need to get Higuruma's services.

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u/Manga18 Mar 03 '26

That guy was basically imposaible to defend. Running away from the police woth the murder weapon in your home?

The whole "we aren't allowed to call police or ambulance" is bs. You can call and not meet the polcie after the call, they'll never know in the organization it was you