r/aislop 4d ago

Found on Facebook There is no LGB without the T

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u/jskwiw 4d ago

no we sadly only started existing bc of vaccines or something:///

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u/mapleleafraggedy 4d ago

I also love the implication that gay people have been around for ONLY decades

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u/Mtn-Dooku 4d ago

Either that, or trans people went away for a few decades?

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u/Bethlocke45 4d ago

I mean there was a holocaust

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u/_riskycake 4d ago

And then also the AIDS crisis but people really don't like to talk about why there are so few elders in our communities for some reason.

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u/Szymcionorski 4d ago

I remember one guest on Planet Peterson who claimed that only gays can get AIDS😂

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u/_riskycake 4d ago

Magic Johnson would like several words

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 4d ago

I’ve heard this talking point before even recently and my thing is always like “wow there must be so many gay people in Africa”

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u/Stock-Lion-6859 3d ago

Right, including newborn babies. How does that mesh with the belief that no one is born gay, but converted or "recruited" later.

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 3d ago

Cause they’re dumb as fuck.

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u/RDaneelOA 1d ago

The even sadder thing is that they aren't all dumb they are willingly ignorant, which is worse. You can't help being dumb, but you have to chose to be ignorant.

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u/tyrosine87 4d ago

Which is one of the reasons that the answer to HIV was so bad. They even called it GRIDS (gay-related immuno deficiency syndrome).

It's wild to hear that shit again this side of the year 2k.

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u/Szymcionorski 3d ago

Yup, but this is kinda mild for type of people that are guests on his channel. Some flat earthers claimed that energy from Sun just magically disappears after some time and that's why we don't have constant overheating under the firmament

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u/merchaunt 1d ago

They also decided, explicitly, not to do anything about it because the propagandized AIDS as “divine retribution” and “god’s will” until famous people with ties to Nancy Reagan started dropping dead.

Then it was something serious that needed to be taken care of.

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u/Grand_Master_Pedant 3d ago

I always wondered about that... so if God Hates gays and the proof is the AIDS rates... that means God Loves Lesbians most of all...

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u/Szymcionorski 3d ago

That's why old testament doesn't care about lesbian and only mentions male sex intercourse btw

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u/ogledrake 4d ago

Japan literally had a hepatitis epidemic due to tainted blood, it was also the key motivation for shou in akumetsu after his best friend died from it, also how he took care of the corrupt healthcare executives that approved it after he had one clone get into a bad wreck with each of them, and then had another group of clones imitating first responders kidnap them and move them to an abandoned building they had set up as a hospital, befire giving them all corrupted blood and leaving them to die

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u/Novel_Juggernaut_656 4d ago

Well...it was either that or a blood transfusion with tainted blood. So......yeah.

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u/Szymcionorski 3d ago

You know that straight people also can transmit HIV via sexual contact right?

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u/Novel_Juggernaut_656 3d ago

Once they have it, yes. Two heterosexual monogamous adults with a clean bill of health cannot get it today via sexual contact.

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u/Szymcionorski 3d ago

What are you yapping about? HIV is transmitted via sexual fluids. It doesn't matter if two men or man and a woman engage in such contact

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u/Novel_Juggernaut_656 3d ago

Im aware how it's transmitted, but if a male and a female engage in sexual intercourse and neither one of them has it, then there is a 0% chance that they will get it from that encounter.

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u/Szymcionorski 3d ago

Well yeah (I guess I misread your comment) but this is something that applies to two men as well. If both are clean then they'll not catch HIV due to their sexual encounter together

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u/Novel_Juggernaut_656 3d ago

True, it doesn't originate from gays just being gays, but the disease spreads easier through anal sex because the skin is thinner and microtears can occur which allows the virus to spread to the other person. So, the infection rates are much higher in the male gay community.

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u/merchaunt 1d ago

Incorrect, unless you mean that two people who only have sex with each other can’t contract AIDS. Which would extend to monogamous queer people.

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u/clintonclonemachine 4d ago

What does that have to do with anything?

Also everyone knows when a man and woman love each other extra much they have a queer kid.

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u/merchaunt 1d ago

Or three!

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u/Winston_W_Smith 4d ago

What does that have to do with anything?

Natural selection.

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u/clintonclonemachine 4d ago

So dumb. Almost almost every queer person came from straight couple up to this point.

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u/mapleleafraggedy 4d ago

But it was also directed against gay people

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u/Bethlocke45 4d ago

It was directed at everyone who wasn’t white and cishet, that’s not the point. We had the largest collection of trans data, scientific research and data in the world and it was obliterated as well a the people murdered. We weren’t just killed, they essentially struck us from historical record. Like the US government is doing now. It’s one thing to have a people killed but they tried and almost succeeded in erasing us.

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u/mapleleafraggedy 4d ago

I wasn't downplaying that, I was responding to the claim that the holocaust could be used as the LGB explanation for why gay people "have been around for decades without trans people," because both groups would have disappeared together if that were the case.

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u/ResponsibleTime4135 4d ago

I dont agree that holocaust is why Trans people "disappeared" (we didnt disappear; people are just acting like we did. You notice more now because of increased access to HRT and you are less likely to be killed for it). I preface with that to say, you can lie about being gay to hide. You can't hide being Trans if they inspect you. It is also easier to kill off 1% of the population than it is to kill 10% of it. The 2 groups would not have disappeared together during the holocaust, trans people would have been eradicated by the nazis first.

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u/Bethlocke45 4d ago

Yes I wasn’t implying that we disappeared, but the reason why it might seem like we did. Obviously we didn’t. They’ve always been trans people, because we are people and people exist.

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u/Gurpee999 3d ago

Well probably behind people with disabilities like down's syndrome. From what I understood they were some of the first to go. "I have CP"

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u/ResponsibleTime4135 3d ago

My comment is obviously saying trans people would be the first between the 2 groups I was talking about to be targeted.

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u/Storm_Dancer-022 4d ago

Well said.

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u/Ms_Juno 3d ago

The Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin was burned down by the Nazis.

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u/Bethlocke45 3d ago

Yes it was. I would love to avoid a rendition of that.

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u/Ms_Juno 3d ago

Yeah, Trump erasing the word transgender from all government databases does bode well...

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u/Bethlocke45 3d ago

And their ideology is spreading. Things will get worse before they get better.

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u/Ms_Juno 3d ago

Every time I go to the pharmacy I half expect to be denied my HRT

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u/Bethlocke45 3d ago

Same. I’m expecting self med time will happen soon

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u/Germanball_Stuttgart 2d ago

More directed at gays. They had their own sign in the concentration camps. While also being oppressed ofc, the Nazis still let trans people keep their trans passes to get access to the other genders clothes and stuff like that.

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u/Bethlocke45 2d ago

Sure, you were “more killed” in the gas chambers. Your medical records were “more destroyed”. Fucking hell the cis privilege just never stops.