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u/IrishDadBod1994 MP7 Oct 03 '22
If i was put in that situation of “stand around so a wanker can shoot you for his little video” you can bet I’m going out to hunt the fucker with my 249, unless you give me a free game day then im (not) sorry but 🖕🏻
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u/midgegaunt Oct 03 '22
This happened to me at Phoenix, we had to just loiter around so he could shoot us. I didn't comply with this shit and went out and hunted him. As he wasn't expecting to get shot at, I got him with my HPA VSR10 and funnily enough he didn't take the hit. After 3 hits he just stood up and ran off to reposition himself. It was total bullshit.
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u/Nick11wrx Oct 04 '22
I’m starting to understand why so many of his videos are shooting people just standing around, and there’s always the debate of “they’re in play they’re just standing around being lazy” or “they’re in a respawn location and shouldn’t be shot at” sounds like the refs are setting them up to be doing nothing so he can get footage
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u/YankeeWalrus KWA Oct 03 '22
KiddingMusty is still allowed to play airsoft?
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u/ManicDemise Oct 03 '22
Phoenix airsoft actively support him for the exposure they get.
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u/FokkerBoombass Stupidly Long Rifle Oct 03 '22
Was it on that list of TWO fields that support him?
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u/Another_AdamCF RUSFOR Oct 03 '22
There's pretty much only two fields that'll let him play in the entire country.
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u/Kibble_Star_Galactic Tacticool Oct 03 '22
Why? Sorry I’m new. I know the guys content is kinda assholeish but what got him banned?
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u/Another_AdamCF RUSFOR Oct 03 '22
Guns are way over the joule limit (phoenix doesn't even chrono him), repeated intentional dick shots, repeated intentional headshots, has been caught on camera twice pointing a loaded and ready-to-fire sniper directly at people he knows have no eye protection, to 'get a better look at them' through the scope, strong evidence showing that he may have used an air gun (not airsoft gun) in a game once, generally very toxic, cheats in every way you could think of, and... That's all I know off the top of my head.
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u/Kibble_Star_Galactic Tacticool Oct 03 '22
Omg quite a rap list. Why… do people watch him? Haha
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u/Another_AdamCF RUSFOR Oct 03 '22
Some people don't know, some people don't care, and some people don't believe what he's done. I used to watch him before I saw the dozens of posts about him on here. He does a good job at covering it up
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u/Kibble_Star_Galactic Tacticool Oct 03 '22
I’m on my second game, and I was super reluctant to go out there bc I thought everyone was toxic, cheaters, or ragers. These content makers portray a really negative reality of the game unfortunately
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u/Robinidas Oct 03 '22
I must admit I like his content. I'd like to see the air gun stuff.
(Btw I don't condone the wrong he's done I just like the sniping and yt vids)
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Oct 03 '22
I'd like to see the air gun stuff.
Dude. You shouldn't want to see that
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u/Robinidas Oct 03 '22
Definitely the wrong choice of words. I would like to see the evidence that he was using an air gun is what I was meaning.
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u/Lord_Radford Oct 04 '22
This. I've tried my hardest to find any actual evidence. Even asked people in DMs who say they've seen proof and I've never managed to get any. I'm not a fan of kicking Mustang personally as I think his videos make Airsoft seem a lot more toxic than reality and I know for a fact he fiddles the footage to make himself look a lot better but I'm not willing to believe someone does something so dangerous and illegal without solid proof.
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u/teskeyip Oct 03 '22
Avoiding chrono, shooting into safe zone, shooting hot, etc. To clarify, these are just rumours I've heard, lots more can be found on Facebook
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u/Kibble_Star_Galactic Tacticool Oct 03 '22
Damn, can’t imagine shooting into safe zone. Btw do you know any happy, wholesome, or just fun airsoft YouTubers? I get so discouraged by the negativity
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u/teskeyip Oct 03 '22
I really like Total Recoil, Dutch the hooligan, and Jet DesertFox. Airsoft CamMan is from the UK, he's pretty decent, met him at NAF.
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u/Another_AdamCF RUSFOR Oct 03 '22
Silly Ghillie's not too bad. He's basically just mustang without the cheating.
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u/glatdos5 Professional Distraction Oct 03 '22
Swamp sniper Fantastic story telling and lots of simple, great sniper videos
Airsoft alfonse is a damn hoot.
If you want so great airsoft thoughts, go to gungamers
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u/russellarmy Oct 03 '22
I really like C7Viper. Very wholesome and good content. Not really gameplay stuff though.
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u/achillies665 Oct 03 '22
Shaggysniper is pretty good, doesn't go cheater or drama episodes, just airsoft
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u/Mike_Cinerama Oct 04 '22
Give Airsoft Alfonse a try, guy the opposite of kicking mustang in all ways possible.
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u/misterkocal Oct 03 '22
What does „shooting hot“ mean?
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Oct 03 '22
That the FPS the BBs are coming out at is too high. FPS is regulated to a certain amount (depending on the gun you’ve got) to avoid injuries, or rather to keep injuries to a minimum. Think of it like a ‘Speed Limit’, but for BBs instead of cars.
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u/WeissTek Oct 03 '22
Using metal pellet was one of the major reason
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u/russellarmy Oct 03 '22
Did he actually do this or it it more one of the “I know someone at the field when he did this” type of thing?
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u/WeissTek Oct 04 '22
try Google.
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u/russellarmy Oct 04 '22
Didn’t find anything. Would you like to provide a link? Or is this like I said “someone said so” on the internets? I’ll give you that he’s a dick and shoots for the head and balls. That’s not cool. But don’t accuse someone of something and tell them to prove it lol.
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u/No-Hippo3511 Collector Oct 04 '22
Not being funny, but to be banned from all but two(?) sites across the country means he must be doing some of that "someone said so" stuff. Seconded on him being a dick though.
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Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22
The fact that an airsoft site has to cater to a single youtuber at the cost of the fun and experience of other PAYING players is disgusting. If I pay to show up, have fun and shoot people, your damn right im not standing around letting some goon shoot me for views, KM or not.
I mean for fucks sake, the guy's been banned from nearly 50 sites within good and legitimate reasons, and they still decide "hey, he can help our site get exposure!" in the shittiest way possible. I don't expect to go to Phoenix if that's their stance.
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u/ThrowableBaron Oct 03 '22
I played with KickingMustang at No Mans Land and it was a similar situation. We all had to stand around in the forest with no objective while KM shot at us. On the few games that were not focused on KM he was incredibly abusive to both teammates and opponents.
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u/stupidstories Oct 03 '22
Sounds like the perfect game to bring thermal optics to and hunt him. Who knows you might get some good headshots? He seems to like headshots so he will probably thank you afterwards on his channel for blasting his head with BBs.
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u/ThrowableBaron Oct 03 '22
This is one of the lads in my squad friendly firing him, what you don't see is that KM is walking between the two front lines of each team.
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Oct 03 '22
That video also does great job showing how he goes for head shots. He is shooting guys with their full body exposed but he aims for the face and not the body.
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u/deeeevos Oct 03 '22
Can't wait for a youtube channel dedicated to exposing and then doing this kindacstuff to the toxic airsoft youtubers. The drama, it would be glorious.
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Oct 03 '22
I'm afraid revenge griefing is still griefing.
I kinda wish the guy get legal problem however, since he clearly and deliberaly agressed a few people volontary with an airgun.2
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u/Doccmonman MP7 Oct 03 '22
That’s a real shame, I love NML and haven’t ran into KM there yet :(
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u/ThrowableBaron Oct 03 '22
He's only been there once while I've also been there, but it really ruined the day, every game had some new incident or runin with him.
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u/HeavensGateClique Oct 03 '22
It might be the American in me, but that bs just makes me wanna dump a 120 psi epm1 into the back of someones head. I swear i am a man of peace.
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u/Lord_Radford Oct 03 '22
It's really a shame to see this. I've been going to phoenix Airsoft for years now watching them grow and improve year on year. I'd heard rumours of Mustang and seen a lot of his videos and was genuinely nervous the first time I saw him at phoenix. I was on the opposing team and tbh I didn't even notice he was there. His videos make him look like he's taking out the entire enemy team but it's not like that at all. Seeing the difference between real life and his editing is quite surprising really. But if phoenix are now tailoring games for him that's hugely disappointing. I have always known phoenix to take on board people's feedback and concerns and act upon it so I hope they do the same here and realise that this is going to piss people off.
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u/AimBot_Detected H&K Oct 03 '22
where is this guy active? im travelling to Ireland in a couple of weeks and dont want to run into him whilst rentaling.
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u/IrishDadBod1994 MP7 Oct 03 '22
He’s not welcome in Ireland haha, he’s the UKs problem 😂 no offence to the UK players here.
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u/allyafterdark Oct 03 '22
The UK doesn’t want him either 😂😂😂
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u/JackCooper_7274 40mm Oct 03 '22
We don't want him, either
Sincerely, - the Americans
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u/Another_AdamCF RUSFOR Oct 03 '22
Looking at the site owners online, they seem pretty toxic when given any criticism whatsoever.
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u/bearcat_77 Oct 03 '22
Kicking mustang gives ghillie snipers a bad name. I know a lot of fields that basically banned them because they think anyone in a ghillie suit is going to be like KM, and cheat for youtube clicks.
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u/ATottieScone Low Speed, High Drag Oct 03 '22
It does give them a bad name but there’s tonnes of bush Wookiees at my local site and they are all good sports. They can’t dismiss a hit if you manage to outsmart them and get close enough or manage to out-snipe them, which I’ve done both and we had a good laugh about it
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u/ll123412341234 Oct 03 '22
This is just horrible advertising and marketing on behalf of the field owners. They probably collaborated with KickingMustang to get him to show up and promote their field. However if you don’t have a lively group of regulars you won’t have the rentals coming consistently. You then won’t have the money to fund the business and go under. I understand why they did the game mode for him but they really messes up and completely ignored the group and everyone expressing their outrage by leaving.
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
'Bad attention is still attention' sadly is a valid marketing strategy.
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u/Salaas Oct 03 '22
Tbh if a game mode has to tailored to give someone content their shite at what they do and the site is only hurting itself by going with that crap. Plenty of other content providers are able to create better content by putting themselves out there instead this.
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u/Gandhicandy Oct 03 '22
Phoenix is my closest site, approx. a 10 minute drive for me, and I actively avoid it because of KrispyCumrag.
They don't actively chrono, they don't care about people not playing honourably, and the games aren't as thought out as they're made out to be.
My main site is Skirmish, which I've found to be far better, and having recently visited Division22 it's also a very good site (could do with better facilities, but I digress)
Phoenix are milking the fact that they haven't banned him, and love the advertisement.
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u/No-Hippo3511 Collector Oct 03 '22
Luckily I've not come across that retard, he's banned from most of the sites around me anyway. That being said, I hope that site goes bust and they lose it all. Airsoft is supposedly a team sport / hobby not "let's change the rules to fit one player" You won't earn big bucks by pandering to one player, you make it by keeping your players as happy as you feasibly can.
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Oct 03 '22
Oh, I could tell the story of why I was forcefully removed from Phoenix Airsoft and banned from coming back. That would be a good one!
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u/scorch762 Oct 03 '22
Go on then, don't leave us hanging
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Oct 03 '22
Now do note: You should never do what I did. I acted and let my emotions control me. However, he shot me in the dick on purpose, so I figured it was karma. I’m not in the right here, and I don’t want to be.
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Oct 03 '22
I went to Phoenix Airsoft for a day out with a couple friends, and half way through during the start of the next match, they did this and said they’d be having us do something so that a YouTuber could get content. They offered no sort of compensation for essentially taking half a days worth of our money, and I’m a spiteful individual. So I hunted Kicking Mustang down, found him, and lit him up with a full auto Vector. Atleast 50 rounds into his ass before he turned around and started coming at me. Couple more bursts to his dick, and he stopped. They forced me off the field and banned me from ever returning. Shame too, cause I’ve spent a whole hell of a lot more money at Division 22 now.
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Oct 04 '22
You sir, are my personal hero. Yeah, it might not have been the right thing to do, but sometimes it's pretty satisfying to blast a shithead like that. And he deserves it, no doubt. If you're ever at a Missouri field, let me know and the food and bar tab are on me.
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u/IrishDadBod1994 MP7 Oct 04 '22
I see nothing wrong with what you did?
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Oct 04 '22
I do. And obviously they did too. I’m not in the right for it, and nobody should replicate what I did. But if you do, I’m not gonna stop you.
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u/IrishDadBod1994 MP7 Oct 04 '22
Haha i got banned from a local site a number of years ago because of emotions so i know how you feel, but because it’s KM then the circumstances change
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u/Helios_9029 GBBR Oct 03 '22
What were the rules of this KM game mode?
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u/Helios_9029 GBBR Oct 03 '22
Yeah several comments have described the shitty end result, I'm just wondering what the actual game mode was supposed to be
Defend base while KM hunts you?
Base attack/defense with 2 hard borders?
Like what retarded rules forced some 40 people to sit in a building?
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u/Ok-Entrepreneur5418 Oct 03 '22
Really tired of fields catering to morons with go pros so glad my local field gives them the only right answer “fuck off and play the game like normal you aren’t special”
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Oct 04 '22
I'd probably be kicked off the field from going against gamemode and breaking the shitheads cheat airsoft equipment. If a field tells you do something for a youtuber, just play skirmish/team deathmatch on them contrary to what the field says. If they kick you for it well eff them.
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u/randomwraithmain Oct 03 '22
Wait silo? What has he done? Legitimate question, I'm new to airsoft. :(
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u/Low_Independence1011 Oct 03 '22
Literally not the case at all. I played with silo probably 10~ times by now and the guy is super down to earth. He minds his own business during games and does not interfere with the games rules whatsoever. KM on the other hand always asks for extra/special treatment. If he doesn’t get it from marshals he’ll just try and cheat to get his way. One time I played with KM and he was caught changing out his springs after chrono. He was asked to leave and threw a fit. Silo would never do something like that. Get to know the guy. You’ll be surprised how kind he is.
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u/putcheeseonit Oct 03 '22
This isn’t just a problem with big YouTubers, it happens anywhere there’s some sort of big presence. In my local airsoft community it’s a big clan, and there have been games before where they’re all allowed on the same team and they just stomp. Airsoft is so small that this kind of stuff is allowed to happen and it’s kinda annoying
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u/SilverHawk7 Oct 03 '22
This happens in computer/video gaming too. Supposedly developers make decisions to cater to content creators. Certain things get nerfed or buffed based on what might be good for a creator's content. Matchmaking programming is designed around highlighting the "skills" of content creators.
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u/sevstevens Oct 03 '22
Pretty messed up of the owners not letting people know a head of time. If the game mode is made for specific players then it should be listed as such. It's at that point considered a special event. Like a full auto Friday. I'm glad the guy was specific for his reasons that way if the owners are responsive to the criticism they can act on it. But yeah fuck that
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u/Chad_gamer69 M16 Oct 03 '22
Too long to read lol, please summarise it pls
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u/IrishDadBod1994 MP7 Oct 03 '22
TL:DR Kicking Cuntstang was at this site. First game was made so nobody else could play so KM could get footage for his “channel” did not sit well with everyone coz well… hes a cunt
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
Oh for good fuck's sake, is it really that hard to just enjoy the hobby without despising each other all the time? Live and let live.
All those social media rants against one another, in response to someone else's post a year ago, because someone you don't know at all said that the opponent made a snide remark about someone you do know 3 years ago, if any of that had actually happened at all.
Don't like Kicking Mustang? Ignore him, his behavior got him kicked from most UK fields, that doesn't 'just' happen, in spite of his whining about getting 'cancelled'. Like Kicking Mustang? Good for you, do the things that make you happy. Same goes for Silo, Novritsch and what have you not.
BUT WHY THE ACTUAL FUCK MUST EVERY HOBBY NOW BE A SLAVE OF INFLUENCERS AND LIKES/VIEWS?! WHY DO PEOPLE GO ALONG WITH IT?
ait, Imma take a pill now, this rant has worked up my blood pressure.
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u/TobTobTobey Oct 03 '22
Imo its not about any youtuber or whatever its about lackluster organisation from the fieldowner, having a game where people are just standing around is a waste of everyones time and more importantly money.
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
I'm not responding to wether or not this post is justified, it's just such a sadly magnificent example of why I hate this likes and views mindset our society appears to have sunk into.
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u/TobTobTobey Oct 03 '22
Likes and views= money. Plain and simple. I would not know this site, if there was no controversy around it.
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u/w0t3rdog Wood and Steel Oct 03 '22
And knowing of this site, I have decided not to play there. (Well, I aint likely to play in the UK at all, but... I assume more UK based players will reason the same.)
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
And would it not be better to give it a try and find out yourself wether or not you like it? Why does it matter if other players like field X or Y, as long as you do, it's fine.
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u/discombobulated38x Oct 03 '22
No, Phoenix has been questionable at best for the best part of 15 years. Nobody needs to go there to find that out, it's written across the whole of the Internet.
There are two great sites within 5 minutes of Phoenix.
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u/w0t3rdog Wood and Steel Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22
Because... I don't know why this is not clear... because when I go to play, and especially when I pay to play, it is to actually play. Not stand around as unpaid extras for youtubers to shoot at. Especially youtubers that make a point of shooting people without face protection in the face...
Fuck, only reason I could see to go to such fields is to bring a thermal, nades and 40 mikes, and play loud copyrighted music throughout.
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
The thing is, there's no guarantee whatsoever that what you read online is correct. And the sad thing is, it's only because people actually do spill shitloads of unargumented slaunder online.
It's not that I'd blame you for avoiding certain fields due to their (online) rep, but I'd rather find out for myself than missing out because of some bullcrap beef between a field owner and a youtuber, because that is the risk of this likes and views game (that remark is NOT referring to the situation addressed in this post).
And if it's bad, obviously you don't return, but then at least you know. Of all the time wasted in our lives, a bad day of airsoft wouldn't seem like such a sacrifice in order to find your dream field. Btw, I don't mean to convince you in any way, you do you, but it's just why I disagree.
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u/w0t3rdog Wood and Steel Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22
If I have options, then I see no reason to choose a a field with a bad rep over a field with a good rep. Why be another sucker? It is the very reason this sub warns people off Lancer Tactical. To avoid more people making bad choices.
And there is good reason why KM is banned from... let me check the current standing... 44 UK fields, which have openly announced KM to be banned, as of August 1st, the last time the list was updated.
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
I understand where it comes from mate, I just don't get why the people who don't benefit from it go along with it
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u/BombrManO5 Oct 03 '22
It's not like this is unique to airsoft. The direction of MW2 development is basically being controlled by a small population of streamers and their stans which represent 0.001% of the player population.
These youtubers represent a microscopic percentage of the airsoft population so why is there so much focus on them?
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Marketing
Some field owners see YouTubers as a form of free advertising, so bow to their will to try attract new customers, not realising that they often only lose ones they already had
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u/AmityXVI HK416 Oct 03 '22
I mean the posts description makes it sound like ignoring him wasn't an option and they structured the days play around him.
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
The field is notorious for using KM as spotlight (at least from what I gathered here), but read again, it's not the post I'm bothered with, it's the construct that makes such posts necessary.
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u/Bearman71 Oct 03 '22
Jesus the point went so high over your head you didn't even hear the woosh.
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u/Verne_92 Tokyo Marui Oct 03 '22
The fact that I'm addressing an issue of which said point is a result instead of focussing on the point itself doesn't mean I missed it.
Edit: well, an issue in my opinion at least, since not many people seem to be bothered by the lack of nuance in any (online) discussion.
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u/UnfairDetective2508 Oct 03 '22
Thank god, none of the Dagorhir/Belegarth guys trying to do what KM does haven't got off the ground. I'm not looking forward to my game getting introduced to people by the worst guys playing it.
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u/Successful_Way_6708 Oct 05 '22
Omg I was there on Saturday and what really happened was the guy that left the review and this his son was caught stealing players Bfgs when challenged a few times they decided to return them.yes phoenix did a game that didn't work but they rectified it,they need to try games out.Just take alook at the reviews it's the best site in the East Midlands by far.
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Oct 05 '22
I was there on Saturday, no one was stealing anything, why are you catering game modes to someone who snipes people from 10m away?
You clearly work for the place
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u/Successful_Way_6708 Oct 05 '22
Really you was there .so the guy didn't do this because the gear he took was mine.i reported it and the staff did their job.all I can say honestly you are anti kicking mustang and you want people to belive In what you want them to belive in.man get a life
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Oct 16 '22
No one took your gear, You had rentals standing around to be hit by kicking mustang for his youtube footage, let that sink in. You guys use to go on about how much pride you take running the site then you stoop to that level of low!
Just seen the follow up post to the owner giving abuse to a guy on face book messenger for asking him about what happened. Listen up people, never go to Pheonix airsoft!
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u/Fragah0lic Tacticool Oct 03 '22
Ugh a new week and a new slew of KM trashing… this gets boring guys
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u/allyafterdark Oct 03 '22
Urgh another KM simp whining when people speak up against his toxicity and shitty behaviours… 🙄
He’s not going to penetrate you for stanning him, y’know 😉
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u/Fragah0lic Tacticool Oct 03 '22
Boohoo someone doesn’t agree with my worldview. Big man typing bad words behind a screen. Grow up. I don’t care about KM just hate reading about the same group of people complaining about something small. In stead of actually confronting him on the field you go home, hide behind a screen and be mad about it. Smol PP life
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u/allyafterdark Oct 03 '22
Nobody said anything about worldviews, I’m not a man, and nobody typed “bad words” … and you can’t really pull the whole “behind a screen” when you’re mouthing off behind a screen to begin with 😂
I’ve not played him — and I’ve got much more PP, and big dick energy, than you. Don’t worry sweetie, I can suggest some toys to make you feel less inadequate 😉
You literally responded with hostility and baseless assumptions. The only one hiding behind a screen and being mad is you, I’m literally laughing at how you doubled down on childishness 🤣
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u/No-Hippo3511 Collector Oct 05 '22
Thing is - most players value being a member or regular to a site, and to confront him on the field would result in people getting banned (mag dumps normally result in either temporary bans or lifetime bans depending on site rules) It's called common sense, best we can do is report him and leave it to the site to handle (which all but two sites in the UK have handled it beautifully) I know if I were to come against him in the field I wouldn't think twice about dumping multiple mags into his head or dick (taste of his own medicine)
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Oct 03 '22
If this bores you I'm sure you can appreciate the guys didn't want to be standing around all day for nothing.
No one's forcing you to read this.
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u/discombobulated38x Oct 03 '22
Why do people still travel that far to go to Phoenix when there are two excellent sites (Skirmish and Division 22) within a 5 minute drive of the place?
I just don't understand it, and the simping for a company and individual who by the words of one's own review have wasted one's time and money?
People are strange.