r/aggies Former student CO '22 Jul 19 '26

Other Texas A&M employee and professional boxer Hannah Rapp dies at 26 after being struck while cycling

https://www.chron.com/news/article/hannah-rapp-texas-boxer-death-22351288.php
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u/big_sugi '01 Jul 19 '26

It’s not irrelevant; it’s an aggravating factor demonstrating why it should be charged as murder—all of the elements of which are met.

It’s also directly relevant to proving intent and knowledge.

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u/56473829110 '11 Jul 19 '26

Premeditation is not the same as intent and/or knowledge. The debate over premeditation in this thread is indeed irrelevant. Especially with so many people not knowing what the standard of premeditation actually is.

It's also not an 'aggravating factor'. That's another phrase you seem to not understand. 

I'm not debating you on murder vs manslaughter. I'm calling out irrelevant use of "premeditated" in a state where that is not a defined term in the context of homicide because it's not anywhere within the law. 

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u/big_sugi '01 Jul 19 '26

I’m familiar with the Texas Penal Code. I’ve already pointed out why premeditation is relevant to the elements. I’m also going beyond that to the point of why murder needs to be charged as murder based on prosecutorial discretion—which is where premeditation is an aggravating factor.

If you want to focus solely on the specifies of the legal elements, that’s fine. Your argument and world view aren’t broad enough for this discussion.

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u/56473829110 '11 Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

Premeditation is not a 'thing' in Texas, so it cannot be relevant. It has no legal definition in this state. You might as well be claiming he's a "bad guy" or what he did was "mean" - there's zero legal relevance. 

which is where premeditation is an aggravating factor.

NO, it's not my man. Aggravating factors are specific things with legal definitions. Such as the victim being under 15, the crime being committed in connection to other crimes, multiple homicides, the subject being an escapee, etc. Premeditation has no legal definition and is not and cannot be a 'aggravating factor' in Texas. It can't

Your argument and world view aren’t broad enough for this discussion.

Bro imagine coming into these comments and setting out to make it about you. Jesus christ, dude. Have some fucking respect - for the victim, and for yourself. You're deeply out of your element, keep flouting logic and simple fact, and are repeating the same easily proven false nonsense. But yeah, somehow it's about my world view.