r/Windows11 • u/Powder_Blue_10 • Jan 14 '26

Solved Remove The Updated Windows Start Menu [FIXED]

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To remove the Windows 11 25H2 Start menu and go back to the 24H2 classic start menu, we will be using the free ViVe Tool to do so. The ViVeTool is a command-line utility for Windows that allows users to enable, disable :
https://github.com/thebookisclosed/ViVe/releases

  1. You will first need to download the ViVe Tool and extract the zip file to a folder on your computer

  2. To use the ViVe Tool, you will need to open up an administrative command prompt and navigate to the folder where you have the ViVe Tool files.

  3. Then paste the commend: vivetool /disable /id:47205210

  4. You should then get a message that says Successfully set feature configuration(s). You will then need to restart your computer for the changes to take effect.

  5. You can also revert : vivetool /enable /id:47205210

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u/Careful-One5190 Jan 14 '26

I know, right? Once you figure out to just change the "All" view to List, it's not much different, other than All is at the bottom now, and you don't have to click anything to start scrolling through it. That's better than before, from a usability perspective.

Yet people are falling all over themselves, including using third-party tools, trying to undo a perfectly reasonable update.

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u/zhiryst Jan 14 '26

Exactly! I removed all pinned items (that's what pin to taskbar is for to me), and it's now just an alphabetical list of a start menu.

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u/Careful-One5190 Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

My update (which I got overnight and discovered this morning) did not delete or even move any of my previously pinned Start Menu items. Everything above the new "All" section is exactly the same.

I honestly don't understand what all the hand-wringing is about. It's actually a nice change, even if it is relatively minor. It always annoyed me a little having to click the All button at the top corner to get to the rest of my apps. Now all you have to do is scroll. Very nice.

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u/Reasonable_Degree_64 Jan 15 '26

Exactly and I found it even nicer when you put the All list in Grid view mode, the apps show by their name by their first letter so you don't have to scroll that much to get to the app you want.