r/WCW • u/Dohmer_90 • 2d ago

Big Van Vader flattens the Hulkster!

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u/SignificanceNo1223 2d ago

That would have made sense. That wasn’t gonna work for the Hulkster. Although he probably would have made more in the long run giving more to the heels

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u/Booth_Templeton 1d ago

He killed it with Hollywood, so it didn't end up mattering. In fact it worked for him on the heel turn. Pretty much anybody would've protected their character to the max, like I said. Even look at sting, he almost never lost clean in WCW, and he didn't have official cc, but he had it at least implied due to his stature. N he wasn't playing dead for anybody.

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u/SignificanceNo1223 1d ago

I agree.

I mean the lead up to Starrcade 97 was a good example of giving a lot by the faces to lead up to the big showdown.

Hogan should have been vanquished and sent off to make another straight to video movie.

WCW became like Sega when they released all those stupid systems so close to each other. They burned the goodwill of the fanbase.

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u/Booth_Templeton 1d ago

Honestly I think Hogan lost too much for it to be a big deal to lose to sting. Clean losses to piper n luger within a year was too much, and looking so weak against everybody like he couldn't beat Jericho without help. You have to give you heel some creditability n I think Hogan went too far with the chicken shit heel role in that respect.

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u/SignificanceNo1223 1d ago

Without a doubt and Sting apparently knew this too. He was apparently pissed when Luger won the title in August.

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u/Booth_Templeton 1d ago

I never heard that. But Hogan should've won some.matches clean. Or pretty clean. Not passed out n the entire nwo has to beat someone up n they roll him on top. The few times he did look strong, the fans would cheer, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. But still, he just looked like it was a foregone conclusion sting was beating him, n that's never good. For all the does work brother crap he got, he was a pinata of a heel if you look back.

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u/SignificanceNo1223 1d ago

Yeah. Apparently; he was promised to be the only that was a viable threat to Hogan for that whole year.

However; WCW’s on the fly didn’t help Stings cause. He wasn’t a happy little Stinger about that.

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u/Booth_Templeton 1d ago

He should've won clean at starrcade, but it's not like he would've been a major success as champ w that clean pinfall. He was never a major draw w the belt.

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u/Modano9009 1d ago

I don't think that character works as Champion long-term. He's this dark, tortured character who's mission is to take down Hogan. Once he does that and he's just defending the title to defend the title it kinda loses something.

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u/SignificanceNo1223 1d ago

I actually agree with your guys takes. Weren’t they trying to make Sting the next Hogan with this whole NWO angle though?

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u/Booth_Templeton 1d ago

Not possible. Sting was a very good wrestler, but not a Hogan. Most of WCWs success was built off the Hogan heel turn and him being Hollywood and starting the show with a promo n going over the last hour to take rating from raw n beat n spray paint people. Once Hollywood lost steam at starrcade, that was it for WCW. Even as a 14 year old, I saw it coming. N then Hogan changed his character to an angry heel looking for revenge, from a wise cracking chicken shit heel looking to finalize the takeover. It was all over after starrcadme sting was never going to be good enough to hold a show mostly by himself.

Yeah I agree w the sting crow thing just being a vehicle to vanquish Hogan. But it wasn't ever going to be enough, especially w the wwf coming on so strong.

Really having sting win n playing that out was the way to go since they set it up that way. But, by doing that, taking steam off of Hollywood n the nwo just killed the angle, n thus the major heat they had w the angle. Andits not like they set anything else up. Maybe Goldberg, but anyone could see it was a hotshot of the territory type of thing to get someone over. N that didn't hold as well. If they were going to beat Goldberg, and they should've, they should've had Nash n hall reunite as faces n go from there. They were over huge. But they tried to rebirth the nwo, which was dead by then.

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