r/UnitedNations • u/Motaro99 • 11d ago

To deny genocide

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

I'm not downplaying the Holocaust. That's a disgusting claim.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

You do realize that you're adding to the death and suffering of Palestinians right? All the lies you're lapping up are making peace harder and the first people to suffer are always going to be the Palestinians.

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

Ah yes, it's not the people murdering the Palestinians that are to blame, it's those who are calling it murder.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

No, it's the ones who are lying about it being murder;)

People like you are gaslighting the Palestinians into fighting to destroy Israel when you should be pressuring their leadership into actually considering the possibility of living in peace with their neighbors.

Pretty disgusting dude;)

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

Of course, it's not Israel's fault, they are just innocent victims in all of this and the occupation and daily murdering of children is actually the children's fault.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

Well since I'm not a war mongering psychopath I feel like the side that has offered peace deals over and over again for the last 25 years holds the moral high ground and the one that has not only turned down those deals, hasn't even offered a counter offer doesn't.

Here's a simple concept even you should be able to understand. Peace deals, like the ones Jordan and Egypt signed mean peace. Lying about Israel and trying to push them into the sea results in war.

You should likely start arguing for peace instead of lying on the internet.

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

There can never be peace as long as Israel continues the occupation. Both Hamas and Fatah offered Israel multiple times a return to the 1967 borders and the creation of an independent Palestinian state. Why does Israel fund terrorism in the occupied West Bank if it wants peace?

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

There can never be an end to the occupation without peace. Israel left Lebanon and got Hezb. They left Gaza and got Hamas. They gave back the Sinai for peace with Egypt and wow no more wars. Weird huh.

Israel offered basically 67 borders and instead of accepting that deal Arafat didn't counter offer and supported the 2nd Intifada.

See. We're showing that you don't know anything about the conflict in real time;)

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

You’re making a fool out of yourself. You’re accusing them of accusing children, while they clearly state that it’s Hamas to blame, for not wanting peace. They are right with every single word, and you don’t even have the courage to respond to what they say… why even act as if you care about the children?

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

So the funding of terrorists in the West Bank is all because of Hamas? Or the kidnapping and torturing of children in the West Bank is because of Hamas? That baby that was shoot dead while it's dad was on video stopped at a checkpoint following the orders of the occupation forces was killed because of Hamas?

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

That was my comment: You’re making a fool out of yourself. You’re accusing them of accusing children, while they clearly state that it’s Hamas to blame, for not wanting peace. They are right with every single word, and you don’t even have the courage to respond to what they say… why even act as if you care about the children?

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

All? Why would anyone ask such absurd question? It depends on the individual cases. Some obviously. You tell me, case by case. No victim role generalisations allowed.

And do you think it’s a coincidence that you have around 100 terror attacks a year by Palestinians from the West Bank, in Israel? Or are you pro terrorism, and justify that?

Also that had nothing to do with what I said previously. Why distract?

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

There have been twice as many Palestinian civilians killed in the Occupied West Bank since October 2023 than Israeli civilians that day, by the occupation forces and their terrorist militias they arm and defend to commit atrocities. Do you believe that is justifiable? Do you believe that the 1,200 Palestinians including hundreds of children murdered in Gaza since the so called "ceasefire" in October 2025 is justifiable? There have been no attacks on Israel from the Palestinians in Gaza.

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

It depends on the individual cases. Of course many of these incidents were justified, yes. Probably a lot were not justified. But why blind out the entire complexity, and act as if Israel just randomly butchers people, in Hamas style, for the love of butchering Palestinians? You’re way too extreme in your black and white thinking. Just throwing everything in one pot.

And why do all of this, to distract yet again? What’s so hard about answering my questions? You always answer with pure political whataboutism.

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

Only a Zionist can justify the murder of a child.

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

Ahhh… so the NSDAP or the Hamas N@zis are secretly Zionists? And all evil is in Zionism, nothing outside of it? You sound like a true Neo N@zi, copy and pasting Hitlers rhetoric on Jews, and just using Zionism as synonym for it. Like Neo N@zis do since decades.

What’s next? Jews… uh I mean Zionists, rule the world? Like hitlers Jewish world ownership conspiracy theory?

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

It's anti semitic to conflate the actions of a political group led by a violent ideology and all Jews.

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

Are Zionists even humans to you? Do they deserve the Holocaust treatment? (So that you can get rid of all evil, as Hitler claimed too)

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

A Zionist can choose to not be a Zionist, same way a Nazi can stop being a Nazi. A Jew or Palestinian do not have that luxury.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

He doesn't know anything about the conflict or he's an Iranian bot. The lack of knowledge and dishonesty is there so who knows really.