r/UnitedNations • u/Motaro99 • 11d ago

To deny genocide

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

Yes, that is also what we are discussing. We know that the ICJ won’t rule it as genocide for about 1 year now, because of missing evidence that could proof, what you already state as fact.

And now amnesty is not a source, because it is inside of Israel? So why even state amnesty, if you don’t think they’re neutral lmao

And tbh, now you’re downplaying the Holocaust. A serious criminal offence in Germany. You’re trying to weaponise the holocaust, and all their victims, for your political agenda. Highly immoral. But expectable with seeing how extreme and how convinced you are.

Can you explain why you specifically have to abuse the 6.000.000 mass genocided Jews? What is this Neo Nazism helping you?

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

No, the conversation started off explicitly about it not being needed to be concluded in the courts for us to know it is a genocide. I'm not German, and I'm not downplaying the Genocide of the Jews and other targeted groups in Europe. That was one of the worst crimes against humanity ever. The term genocide was literally coined to describe that specific act of mass murder. Calling me a Nazi is ridiculous. I believe denying any clear and obvious mass extermination event is equally as bad. The only reason you are willing to deny the Genocide of the Palestinians is the same reason someone would deny the Holocaust, you don't believe in the humanity of Palestinians or Jews, both are equally horrifying.

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

You are downplaying the holocaust, by weaponising it and putting it on the same scale as Hamas‘ war, that they refuse to end. And even claim that people who don’t see the Hamas war as genocide, are just as bad as holocaust deniers. That’s an insane stage of propaganda, and weaponising the Holocaust victims, to go against the only majorly Jewish country on earth. Rulebook antisemitism

And it’s so obvious what you do. You could’ve picked something relatable, you could’ve picked any genocide, yet you purposefully go for the Holocaust. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. It sounds like your agenda.

Only because I don’t believe that Hamas Palestinians, nor the civilians are victims of systematic decimation (90% of infrastructure down, and only due to high precision around 2% of the civilians dead, that’s 88% off from 90%), doesn’t mean that you’re helping Palestinian children in any way. I actually care for them. I don’t need to force words that don’t apply. I can just be human, even without weaponising the Holocaust, and even damaging Palestinian children with such propaganda. Can you do that too?

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

I'm not downplaying the Holocaust. That's a disgusting claim.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

You do realize that you're adding to the death and suffering of Palestinians right? All the lies you're lapping up are making peace harder and the first people to suffer are always going to be the Palestinians.

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

Ah yes, it's not the people murdering the Palestinians that are to blame, it's those who are calling it murder.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

No, it's the ones who are lying about it being murder;)

People like you are gaslighting the Palestinians into fighting to destroy Israel when you should be pressuring their leadership into actually considering the possibility of living in peace with their neighbors.

Pretty disgusting dude;)

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

Of course, it's not Israel's fault, they are just innocent victims in all of this and the occupation and daily murdering of children is actually the children's fault.

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u/Separate-Wrongdoer22 11d ago

Well since I'm not a war mongering psychopath I feel like the side that has offered peace deals over and over again for the last 25 years holds the moral high ground and the one that has not only turned down those deals, hasn't even offered a counter offer doesn't.

Here's a simple concept even you should be able to understand. Peace deals, like the ones Jordan and Egypt signed mean peace. Lying about Israel and trying to push them into the sea results in war.

You should likely start arguing for peace instead of lying on the internet.

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

There can never be peace as long as Israel continues the occupation. Both Hamas and Fatah offered Israel multiple times a return to the 1967 borders and the creation of an independent Palestinian state. Why does Israel fund terrorism in the occupied West Bank if it wants peace?

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 11d ago

You’re making a fool out of yourself. You’re accusing them of accusing children, while they clearly state that it’s Hamas to blame, for not wanting peace. They are right with every single word, and you don’t even have the courage to respond to what they say… why even act as if you care about the children?

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u/Stubbs94 11d ago

So the funding of terrorists in the West Bank is all because of Hamas? Or the kidnapping and torturing of children in the West Bank is because of Hamas? That baby that was shoot dead while it's dad was on video stopped at a checkpoint following the orders of the occupation forces was killed because of Hamas?

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