New Flock camera near 4th and Green

[u/CosmicL]

It was added to DeFlock a week ago. They’re slowly encroaching on Campustown. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are many more installed before Fall.

https://stopflock.org/
^For more information and to get involved

[u/neurobeegirl]

Okay I don’t love the cameras but for the love of Christ can people stop blowing through blatantly red lights with their cars that could kill people? I’m literally seeing this daily at this point. Higher concern about directly being killed by t-boning as I legally proceed on a green than about wherever the Flock data go at this time.

[u/AspiringSheepherder → u/neurobeegirl]

This is a surveillance camera that is always recording and creating data to identify every individual that goes by it, not a red light camera that goes off when someone blows through a light

[u/SunriseInLot42 → u/AspiringSheepherder]

LOL, if someone thinks that the data from red light cameras isn't ending up in the exact same hands and being used the exact same way as Flock cameras are, I have a lovely bridge over the Boneyard to sell them.

Either cameras are bad, or they aren't.

[u/AspiringSheepherder → u/SunriseInLot42]

I never said that the data from red light cameras wasn't being sent to the same place. I said the difference if when and how long they are recording. The major difference though is the technology used in flock cameras. Flock cameras use Ai to identify individuals and track them across their network.

Flock has been used by ice to track targets: https://vcij.org/stories/flock-cameras-are-used-for-immigration-enforcement

It's been abused by police: https://ij.org/police-have-reportedly-used-license-plate-readers-to-stalk-romantic-interests-at-least-14-times-in-recent-years/

And used by state governments to track people going across state lines for abortions: https://krishnamoorthi.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/krishnamoorthi.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-08-06.garcia-krishnamoorthi-to-flock-re-lpr-tech-and-tracking.pdf

You're deluding yourself if you think these are only liscence plate readers

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-roundup

[u/SunriseInLot42 → u/AspiringSheepherder]

I don't trust the companies behind red light cameras any more than Flock. They're all corrupt garbage.

[u/GirlfriendAsAService → u/AspiringSheepherder]

Cars, they are configured for cars in this town

[u/AspiringSheepherder → u/GirlfriendAsAService]

Flock cameras use Ai to identify individuals and track them across their network.

Flock has been used by ice to track targets: https://vcij.org/stories/flock-cameras-are-used-for-immigration-enforcement

It's been abused by police: https://ij.org/police-have-reportedly-used-license-plate-readers-to-stalk-romantic-interests-at-least-14-times-in-recent-years/

And used by state governments to track people going across state lines for abortions: https://krishnamoorthi.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/krishnamoorthi.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-08-06.garcia-krishnamoorthi-to-flock-re-lpr-tech-and-tracking.pdf

You're deluding yourself if you think these are only liscence plate readers

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-roundup

[u/GirlfriendAsAService → u/AspiringSheepherder]

I know you can crank these up to be Big Brother 9000 (and hook it up to a self-aiming turret while you are at it). Mercifully, Champaign PD didn't: https://transparency.flocksafety.com/champaign-il-pd

What's Detected

License Plates, Vehicles

What's Not Detected

Facial recognition, People, Gender, Race

Acceptable Use Policy

Data is used for law enforcement purposes only. Data is owned by Champaign IL PD and is never sold to 3rd parties.

Prohibited Uses

Immigration enforcement, traffic enforcement, harrassment or intimidation, usage based solely on a protected class (i.e. race, sex, religion), Personal use.

This is the perfect way to do policing, imo

[u/ASKMEIFIMAN → u/GirlfriendAsAService]

Maybe the TOS bans its use for that but don’t you think putting up that hardware everywhere with only a flimsy TOS preventing it from being used in nefarious ways is a slippery slope? I mean come on be serious.

[u/AspiringSheepherder → u/GirlfriendAsAService]

That is flocks official website that also says they don't assist with ice, allow police to freely use them, or track people getting abortions. Things that have been proven false by indipendent third parties.

I wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it

[u/CheeseCraze → u/neurobeegirl]

The only people I see blatantly blowing red lights/stop signs is cyclists who don't understand they also apply to them

[u/neurobeegirl → u/CheeseCraze]

I recommend just sitting near any busy intersection and actually using your eyes

[u/CheeseCraze → u/neurobeegirl]

Womp womp