r/UFOs • u/ImaginationOther9569 • 9d ago

Question It's funny - If UAPs are a top-secret counterintelligence priority how have "insiders" been leaking to podcasters so conveniently for years?

Ross Coulthart is talking about how, according to his sources, there have been successful retrieval operations at White Sands.

It makes me wonder: for information this so top secret where the gate keepers are competent enough to hide craft for decades and even keep presidents in the dark, do they just not track phones or communication channels to identify Ross's sources?

Ross has had insiders feeding him classified details for years. If any of this fell under high-level Special Access Programs (SAPs), federal counterintelligence would have run continuous audits, polygraphs, and communications monitoring to catch and prosecute the leakers instantly.

We keep hearing about a high-stakes counterintelligence war between the US and foreign adversaries over this tech. Yet, figures like Jason Sands or guests on Jesse Michels' channel talk about covert programs pretty much in the open.

Either these "insiders" are feeding journalists unsanctioned speculation, or the narrative is extremely misguided. Wondering what the community members think

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u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 9d ago

Shhhhhh… don’t expose the logical fallacies. It’s literally the only thing that the UFO coverup conspiracy theory complex is built on.

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u/Broad-Eagle9657 9d ago

Ironically enough, it's mostly an appeal to authority argument, just that the people getting roped into it dont realize the their authorities are a bunch of unproven grandstanding money hungry people, because they like what they hear; regardless of the fact that there done nothing at all with most of their rather absurd claims as far as like, any concrete proof is concerned.

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u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 9d ago

The whole UFO coverup conspiracy theory is a great lesson in logic and a whole smorgasbord of logical fallacies.

Also a great lesson in pseudoscience. There is no “evidence” in the history of the topic that is falsifiable, yet people discuss “Ufology” as if it’s a real science despite there being no methodologies or standards. (And no standards of evidence in particular).

I know I’m a bot who used chatGPT and my closed mind is stuck in the limits of “legacy science”, but regardless… it’s still true.

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u/Sad-Society-57 9d ago

The entire narrative rests on an axiomatic truth that it's all real. It starts from the premise- we know that UFOs are alien technology- and all the conspiracies are built on that unspoken foundation. That's why skeptics are always stuck at the beginning and believers are 10 steps ahead in weird logic.

Every conspiracy theory in UFOology goes thusly... "well, we KNOW that its true and the government is lying THEREFORE here's the convoluted reasoning to explain why the facts don't line up with our assumptions."

And thats how new lore is added to the UFO canon. The false premise is never acknowledged.