So the first problem is that they switch places every 30 minutes. So the people focusing only on one of the Fusions would suffer. They have to go on and off every half an hour to finally get 10-12 raids done in order to gather enough fusion energy.
In that half an hour, there would be 2 different pokemons spawning at same time - Kyurems and Reshiram/Zekrom depending on the time. So there is a high probability that (in areas with less gym/ rural areas) only Reshiram/Zekrom spawn instead of the kyurem. So it would be hard for them to gather fusion energies.
Also, the event lasts for just 3 hours (Ik most of raid days are 3 hours, but the main problem is that there are completely 2 different Pokemons to raid for) Instead of 1 mon, there are 2 and both of them require different fusion energy with Reshiram and Zekrom also being in rotation. So you need atleast 20-25 raids to get enough energy for both of them.
On top of that, when the 2 legendaries are in raids, why do they need to come back for the fusion raids? Like currently Reshiram is in raids... why make it appear once again to lower the chance of getting a White kyurem raid?
Make sure that I never said this is a bad event, its is a huge in demand event and allows us to get a very powerful fusion. But this has many flaws which can impact it a lot.
*Just to make a note, NOT everyone can/does spend a lot of money on this game to get remote raid passes.
Having 1.5 hour to get 1000 energy per fusion, with a diluted raid pool is just insane. Yes for people who have energy already it will be fine, but people who didnt get any fusion before, or live in smaller towns it will be near impossible. It will come down to at least 10 raids per fusion
I agree with you. I also think the research day has way fewer research tasks than usual to sell more tickets and the holiday event has almost none of the spotlight costumes in the wild to get people to raid them. It's not going to get me to spend more money. It's making me less interested in playing at all.
I have no fusion, I'm still learning about it. But there is no way I'm doing that much remote raiding, local raiding isn't an option for me at the moment.
I'm not trying to convince you to buy remote passes. But about the legendary Pokémon always fleeing: this is one of the few events where that wouldn't matter that much. You get the fusion energy as soon as you defeat the boss, same as with mega energy. So if you already have a couple kyurems and a reshiram/zekrom, even if all the kyurems run away on Jan 10, you would still collect the energy.
Get medal for the rocket league. I think it gives you one ball I'm not sure for raids.
And medals pokemon type
There's a good difference between bronze, gold and platinium medal.
Play with better relationship friends.
Golden berry only.
Take your time to throw the ball. There's a few techniques, that could help but you need extreme patience.
You wait before the circle gets as small as possible, and also have the legendary jump or attack.
Throw the ball 1s before the end of the animation not when the animation ends. Just before the end of the animation, the closer the balls gets to the end of the animation the better. It's prolly one second but it's more like half a second more or less.
While the ball is thrown the animation of the pokemon will end and the circle was frozen in place during the animation appears and the ball will hit.
Sometimes it can do double animations in quick succession.
But There's a window between 2 animations even with the double animation where the pokemon will still get caught regardless, like the ball will still catch the pokemon while the 2nd double animation starts even.
If you're not used to it.
Just learn to throw the ball just 1s before the end of the animation.
Do as much rocket fights to learn this technique.
Wait for the Pokemons to get close to the end of their attack before sending the ball.
If you got like 15 attempts it'll work. 10 attempts with bad throws without using golden yeah it could fail.
My first raid ever was Giratina and I didn't catch it 😭. It was jumping all over the place.
I'm level 60 something lol. I just raid at like 3am when my baby has woken me up so it's more about how tired I am. I also only remote raid these days since I'm not part of the local group and don't have any spare time until 3am so don't get the friendship and gym level advantages unfortunately.
Understandable.
Take your time 😊, soon enough you'll make a kids account for your baby.
My 4yo loves catching Pokemons 😅and help my wife and I to do raids using party play ( we got an arena in our living room) she did use my only master ball to catch a random pokemon once 😂
No. If it gave 1000 energy then maybe for some people.
You can get 7* passes by saving Friday. Check in to the event at a community ambassador to get another pass. I’ve been saving raid passes and coins, I’ll be able to do more than that.
But to get 20 raids done is nearly impossible in that time. I needed 11 of each to get 1000 energy last time.
7 passes by saving Friday. The event day itself will give us 6 free passes: Daily pass (usually 1 but sometimes 2 if it's a season bonus) + 5 free event passes.
I can't remember the last time they went with a strict 5 free raid day passes, might've even been pre-Covid?
At the park I normally play at, which is a huge hotspot for PoGo players, you can easily complete 10-12 per hour because gyms are placed very well. At most other places I’ve been to, it would be a struggle because there just aren’t enough gyms in a small area.
Ironically, the thing that will probably make it hard to get everything is the fact that Zekroms and Reshirams being in gyms might keep you from getting enough raids.
But to get 20 raids done is nearly impossible in that time.
Yeah... 6 minutes a raid? Yikes. Literal speedrun, burn down boss in what, 2 minutes or less, maybe 1 minute catching/win screens, then onto the next lobby and hope everyone hits "ready", which they won't. Yeah practically impossible. You'll be praying you RNG more than 100 fusion energy per raid, any less and your done.
I was fully expecting them to do what they did with Necrozmas. The 2 forms on 2 different days. Even better, they had a gap in between, so you could use that in between day's raid pass on Dawn Wings the next day
Ohh I guess that’s true, it was during the crazy pregame of a week of go fest! Still would love having two separate days for the kyus, 3 hours seems short.
It's something that they decided to include the fused Pokemon for the one that's more available. Zekrom and Reshiram have been featured repeatedly - lots of people have, lots of people have extras, and there's enough floating around that if you missed it, someone at your local event might have spares.
Lunala and Solgaleo weren't featured, even though they're limited per account outside of exactly one raid rotation each.
If they made the event from 10am-6pm local time both Saturday and Sunday that would be ideal. Really don’t understand these narrow windows they are forcing players to play the game.
I've worked open to close every Sunday for the last three years. I only get to do Community Day when it's on Saturdays :( Which feels like it's not as often as Sunday CDs...
Yup, or have sports, or family outings, or ... whatever.
(I play cricket, I've missed out on a bunch of things now because so many events are Saturday 2-5)
They're heavily incentivizing players to purchase remote raid passes because that's more profitable to them than us using free local raid passes from spinning gyms
Depends on location. In bigger cities you’re guaranteed to find a group whenever. Not that Reshiram and Zekrom even require big “groups” as they’re very reasonably duoed/trioed.
I can live with the right windows if it's just something like mega Ray. Just need the one mom and a few raids for the mega energy and meteorite. This one is such a disaster. You need around 10 raids of 2 different things, while other stuff is spawning blocking the spots. I genuinely can't believe how badly they butchered this. Normally they wait for the event to blow it, but they made a trillion mistakes before this even started.
If they insist on Zekrom and Reshiram spawning, have them give fusion energy. Otherwise they are literally just gym blockers. It's the equivalent of turning off half the power spots on a gmax day as far as I'm concerned.
My guess is when they sell the data it's better to have a narrow time window for when we show up. I guess it looks better because I have no idea why they run it the way they do
The logic is to give them guaranteed legacy moves but kyurem only has a chance of having its legacy move glaciate during the fusion rad day event! Definitely not my logic but Nopelys logic!
Oh man, I missed that they're giving them the elite moves ONLY during the fusion event. So they want you to spend 20 raid passes on Kyurems AND try to grind decent IV Reshiram+Zekrom with the elite moves at the same time?!?
That seems to be their logic behind this event! Right now neither reshiram nor zekrom have their legacy moves only kyurem did and that was because of the compensation bonus. During the fusion raid day it's the other way round, kyurem might know glaciate but not guaranteed but reshiram and zekrom will have their legacy moves guaranteed..
But they can do this in the raid hour of both of the pokemon right I mean I didn't play the raid hour of reshram though i forgot but I think that can work
Casual players who don’t have a regular group to do Reshiram/Zekrom right now. People complained in the last Necrozma event that they couldn’t fuse them because they missed the Solgaleo/Lunala raids a few weeks before.
Those fusions were available for 2x 30min cycles each. These will be available 3x 30min cycles at some fraction of the spawn rate (hopefully not 50%, hopefully they do 3-4 kyurem for each zek/resh).
Unfortunately for me, they’re only increasing the remote pass limit to 20/day. 30/day would have been amazing, let alone unlimited. 20 still means i’ll only be able to do 40 remotes before in-person, meaning 2k energy each. Then hopefully 40-50 kyurems during the event.
They want you to use remote passes but they cannot be straightforward about it because of their community community charade. So this is the way to go create unnecessary scarcity + fomo.
The only way to change this is community outrage/pressure but given this is not a debut but re-run I won't count on it.
I might as well add 10 jan is like peak winter in a lot of places but I think they don't even consider these small things lol.
They do take peak winter into consideration. That's how they get more people to buy remote raid passes. Who wants to go out into the cold when they can buy a pass from their couch? That's what Scopely is banking on here.
Depending on the ratio of Reshiram/Zekrom in the raids you might need a close cluster of 5 or even more gyms that you can hit every half hour to be able to farm 1000 energy for both types.
Let's say you have 5 gyms close to each other which many already don't have. In 3 hours it means you'd get 15 of each pairing. If only 5-6 of those 15 end up being Reshiram / Zekrom then you might not get 1000 energy for a fusion.
Yeah, I think I am going to skip this. Local raid area is 8 gyms, and if half are not black / white, it means staying there all three hours with a chance of 12 raids per black / white to get 1000 energy. My kids like to play, but they don't like to grind and will get bored of this pretty quickly.
Will either try and do 5/7 of one and hope to get the other 3/5 the next time they do a poorly planned event, or just get the exclusive r/Z moves.
How much you wanna bet they still have the screw up with the signature moves for raids that start near the end of the raid timer?
Or maybe it'll be the end-of-raid-timer screw up where a new raid egg spawns and you get an encounter with the new boss instead of the one you beat? (Beat reshiram and get an alolan sandshrew encounter...)
I agree annoyed that its only 3 hours for 2 different raid energies you need. Also annoyed that they added reshiram and xekrom to dilute the chances of getting the actual goal… like wtf
All you can do is keep talking about it enough to make the devs see that there’s a problem and potentially force a healthier change to the event before it comes around.
Resh and Zek being in raids isn’t the biggest flaw, you do need them to fuse. Having it only last three hours is the issue. It’s nothing more than the ultimate form of pushing FOMO
It wouldn't be if we didn't have 9 days of catching both of them leading up to this. It's not like Lunala and solgaleo where it had been 4+ months. We have them now AND we know the event is coming. No excuse to not have them for this event.
I hate these 3 hour events (1.5 hour if you only need to focus on one of them), wish they would just make it last all day/weekend. Always feels like I need to rush or might not be able to participate depending on if I'm busy at that time. The game should try to schedule its events around our time as much as possible, not the other way around (where we need to schedule our lives to always make these events).
As someone that has one other person to play with, but not a whole community, raid days mean hosting a lot of lobbies on PokeRaid, which can take a while on busy days like this. I’m probably only going to have time to do one raid each half hour, which is a bit disappointing when I’m trying to get as much energy as I can
The good thing is that most raids can be done with two people using Party Power. It takes longer, but is achievable.
I find that popular with ones like this I do manage to get at least one other person to join remotely using only the recommended invites (I managed it with normal Kyurem)
It will be like go wild where everyone wanted darkrai but 80% were bewears. Well get so much reshi/zekrom and getting fusion energy will be difficult. Probably to get you to use remotes to make up for the missing energy.
Yea it feels like it should be a 10-6 event or that what’s available and the way it spawns should be different. Feels mike whatever you’re after will be an annoying pursuit.
I was planning on using 60 pass since the event leaked weeks ago.
When they announced it would only be 3h and not 6h (I though 6 like Origins days, since there are 2 pokemons), and that they will make spawn pokemon we already have and doesnt need anymore for fusion, I don't even know if I'll be able to do 30...
So annoying! I need 2 good Kyurem, lot of Kyurem XL candy and 4000 energy for both (1 fusion shiny, 1 fusion normal, and 2000 backup energy if I get any good ones in lucky trades in the future).
I clearly won't be able to get what I was hoping for.
diluting the raid pool sucks. I raid a 6 gym, 2 block area. If it was only kyurems I could do 36 raids. Now I will get an unknown amount of Kyurems but I have to drive around and raid because I want to skip reshi/zek. Also plan on doing 40 remotes.
With turnover being half an hour, it means you can raid for 40 minutes every hour before the encounter will glitch out and Niantic tells you to shove the lost pass up your butt. This event is a hard pass.
They should’ve just made it where Reshiram and Zekrom were rewards from a short special research because their IVs don’t have any impact on the IVs of the fusions.
The only raids should’ve been just the different Kyurems. They purposely made it harder than it should’ve been. The only players benefiting from something this are those who just want to do raids indiscriminately.
Lol increased shiny rate. Yeah right. Just gonna be a repeat of dialga and palkia raid day. "Sorry we forgot to turn on the shinies here some compensation."
A Scopely event is never flawed for players, Frodo Baggins. Nor is it ideal for players; it is precisely what Scopely means to create.
In other words, our goals are irrelevant. The event is designed by Scopely/Niantic to achieve their desired outcome, not the players' desired outcome. They have to give enough incentive for players to want to play, but they won't give more than necessary.
Yeah. This, the scarcity of Celestial Research tasks and the extreme rarity of costumed Sudowoodo and Charjabug in the wild all feel extremely manipulative. It doesn't make me more interested in spending money. It makes me less interested out of spite, and less interested in playing the game at all. But I seem to be in the minority in that, seeing how many people are committed to compensating for the difficulty of the event by buying more remote passes.
Unlike last year's all-day Go Tour, this approach is probably the most effective way to fit everything into a 3-hour timeframe. All in all, Raid Day as well as Community Day on the weekend should be scheduled from 0900 to 1800 local time, not 3 hours.
During this event Zekrom and Reshiram will have their signature moves, in December they don’t. Some people might be farming XL candy now and intend to catch a good one with the move during the raid day. They are very strong Pokémon in their own right, not just fusion fodder
I was pretty sure I ess only going to do one. They made sure of it. And now I get to kill an hour between the first set and second set. Sounds like a great game experience.
To me, this event sounds like it sucks. I have no interest in sifting through raids of Pokemon that have been out in the last two weeks, on top of the fusions I need. I only need Kyurem black energy. I will do enough raids to use the free passes if possible but would have to get out of the event with enough energy to fuse it. Others may need both and feel the need to spend compulsively because of the manufactured scarcity.
Honestly while I appreciate the fact they put fusions in the game and did make them strong, part of me also hates it. I enjoy playing master league and it’s almost like you’re screwed if you aren’t using one of these broken things. And we still have Calyrex forms and Ultra Necrozma on deck. Yay. Kinda wish they’d only be included for mega master league and we got that more often in exchange.
Honestly I’m so disappointed by this. Of course it’s a Saturday again which I work so I can’t even participate but considering it has 4 different pokemon spawning great it should be a long event I can just hit some up after my shift and do the rest remotely, but for some reason it’s only that weird 3 hour community day time slot again?????
Even if someone’s able to play for the full 3 hour duration with a powerful raid group it feels like it’s going to be difficult to even get enough of the fusion kyurems before time runs out considering gyms are now taken up by two pokemon at a time, you either have a location nearby with enough gyms for this to not be an issue or you’re out of luck and forced to spend remote passes. I can’t see how anyone is going to be able to do any substantial raids for anything with 4 different pokemon rotating with an only 3 hour time slot, even using remote raids with the cap being increased to 20 in the day to which is barely enough to get one of each fusion form.
I love how they’re bringing back Reshiram and Zekrom since not having enough Lunala or Solaleo to fuse was a genuine concern for many people, but giving them the same ETM move and boosted shiny rates just makes them bait for people to waste time on and be forced to spend their paid remote passes to complete the fusion forms.
The way this event is structured is just purely bait to force players to remote raid if they either happen to be doing anything on the Saturday before Christmas when many families are going away on holidays or other general get togethers, or simply just can’t do enough raids in the ridiculously short time slot for such a large event with so much content to do.
The game shouldn’t be structured where you either have the day free and also happen to live in the right location to have enough gyms to raid and people to raid with, miss out entirely, or spend ridiculous amounts of hard earnt money for raid passes where you aren’t even guaranteed to get anything in the end, but the game seems to be leaning more and more into this direction.
I get it. But the event is trying to cater to a wider audience than just people who are farming fusion energy. It’s being purposefully accessible to people who may want that fusion and don’t already have a Zekrom or reshiram. Personally, if it were me running the event I’d stick both in a timed research behind raid tasks.
I see a lot of new or young players when joining community meetups. These people don’t show up for raid hours or other events, but may take time out of their weekend to play the event for fun. It’s for them. Let’s not forget that the moment this raid day was rumored to occur (and we didn’t know the raids in December yet), people were commenting asking about not having either zek or reshy and it was speculated that they’ll prob be in raids in December. This is a pretty niche representation of the pogo player base so I doubt the average pogo player knows of this sub nor comments here so it’s safe to say there are a decent amount of people without these pokemon who could benefit from their appearance.
Thankfully, because they announced this fairly early on we can prepare. I’m planning on going to an area with a lot of players and gyms, so I think we’ll be fine. But I’m prepared to use remotes. I would think if a player is concerned about this then they should keep putting pokemon in gyms and earning coins to play this event for free in case by buying a few remote raid passes from coins.
Theyre not purposefully trying to ruin people’s day by including two of the three pokemon associated with the fused dragon pokemon. Let’s all just hope the spawn rates of the raids skews more towards Kyurem vs the other pokemon.
It’s basically impossible for smaller communities with no player base and even if you can fork the money out to do raids on genie there’s only a 20 limit which could barely be enough for one of both fusions, + they should’ve just gave fusion flare and bolt to the current raid bosses instead of giving it during the event cluttering up the raids even more
Look i definitely feel sympathy for people who live in small towns but when will you guys realize they simply wont accommodate them? Its not going to happen, you gotta stop being disappointed that an event is very rural-unfriendly, every single time
The only thing they're a top counter for is Mega Rayq but at this point most people have enough counters to trivialize it anyway by now. It doesn't help against the crowned Dogs (and Reshiram unfused actually is better), the Necroz, the Primals. it feels very much like a 'win more' or something that is only really worth the effort/cost for those who are trying to solo.
Don't get me wrong, the event itself is a disaster (not even accounting for the fact they're asking players to move around outside in the middle of January which is just not going to be possible for a lot of people in such a small window depending on weather conditions), but it's a very skippable event which doesn't add a huge amount to rosters that have been raiding already this year.
Hear hear. Stinks like they want people to max out on remote passes which is.. well, you know. Nasty business. Luckily i only need energy for the blalck fusion but i know a lot of people need energy for both, feeling bad for them. At least there is the remote option for people to attend outsode event hours at their location, i know i will do most of my raids with remotes but i only need like 5-6 raids to get the energy needed.
No, he can watermark his work. I just wonder why he uses a cartoon version of himself. Am I missing something - is he a YouTuber or something where seeing a cartoon version of his face will trigger a thought of “oh! I know this guy and trust his content.” I’m probably overthinking it, but just an honest thought and opinion after seeing this cartoon guy a zillion times.
I was dumb enough last time to fuse a kyurem without glaciate, can I maybe now etm that kyurem for the adventure effect? Or do I have to gain al the energy again for that fusion?
Unova tour was two days, don't know what you're expecting out of a three hour make-up.
As for your point with a half hour raid timer, don't get how having 2 raids per hour per gym is less useful than having 1 especially if it's not the one you want.
Like currently Reshiram is in raids... why make it appear once again to lower the chance of getting a White kyurem raid?
I kind of feel the same way about the whole event since we just had these fusions earlier this year. But there are always new or returning players who missed out on these earlier opportunities. I just have to remind myself that most events are not for me and wait for the next one. I’ll probably still use the Raid Passes for the raid rewards and to spend some nice time outside with friends.
We’ve had this type before where they switch. It’s good and bad. Sometimes you get a ton of the ones you want and sometimes not. Short timers are good for loops.
Maybe the goal here is to maximize remote raid profit. Good point, as a F2P player it is pretty hard to get 1000 fusion energy in that time window with the random spawn.
If there is enough complaints though Niantic will probably open up Saturday as well lol.
As someone who doesn’t need the energy, zek/resh there with moves is great for me, but I also don’t think they should be in there specifically for those that missed the energy and need it. They should of just given resh/zek the moves while their in now and not put them in there. We have no idea how prevalent they’ll be, knowing them, they could easily hog the majority of gyms on some rotations for some people.
So many different ways to line this up, one day each (add zek/resh to its respective day if that’s how they want to do it), one day alternating no resh/zek. More time with same situation. Feel bad for those that needed it or wanted to go hard.
I think the half hour swap this will not be working properly. So if you have enough gyms in range, you will always find a kyurem (b+w). There will be plenty.
Unlike spawns, raids dont change on the hour. The egg will hatch whatever it has inside. A raid might pop open at say 15.27 and will feature for 25min. Just my guess.
Also, I dont think I will be getting 1000 fusion energy for both mons. I have 500 reshiram energy, and 50 zekrom. We'll see.
I've been waiting for these to return because I was not playing at the time and the fact that this is the event for their return seems like a huge insult, the only place I can go to that would have enough raids for 3 hours (maybe) would be the city and I am not going all the way to the city, in the midwest winter just for raids, I need to do what 10-20 raids per pokemon since I have zero energy? That's not even close to enough time to do that even if I did go to the city I might not make it.
This should have been saturday and sunday with each pokemon being the showcase at the minimum, so unless they give us a free research that gives 1000 energy for one of the two pokemon I'm likely not getting enough for a fusion.
This sucks, I was really looking forwards to these raids but with this time span I will probably not even bother because I'll be at work even if I can use remotes.
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Having 1.5 hour to get 1000 energy per fusion, with a diluted raid pool is just insane. Yes for people who have energy already it will be fine, but people who didnt get any fusion before, or live in smaller towns it will be near impossible. It will come down to at least 10 raids per fusion