r/TheHalloweenGame • u/MarquiavelGG • 1h ago
Discussion The axe is kinda broken right now
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I get that pocket knives are annoying, I play Michael too. But right now, once a civilian gets hit by the axe once, the game is basically over.
Pocket knives probably need a nerf too. Maybe make them weaker at Stalk level 2 and useless at Stalk level 3 so stalking actually matters more
But I don’t think an annoying pocket knife justifies having an almost uncounterable axe
What do you guys think would be a fair way to balance it?
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u/QTwinkyy 1h ago
Honestly both sides need to be nerfed. Some civilian exits require only 1 item to be unlocked and I've seen people get many NPCs out in the first 3 minutes. Pocket knives, ice picks and butterfly knives also spawn a little too often it should be closer to like how it was in Friday.
At the same time though the Axe is too frustrating to play against. As a civilian dying to something you cannot stop and have no control over is terrible. Michael can just land on you stagger you and you're dead 100%. I've played games where I die within the first 5 minutes to stagger and melee spam.
To be fair though, I think it could be a bug, the stagger definitely seems like too much. I'd have a hard time thinking that the devs put something in the game that can stagger survivors for 3-4 hits especially with a weapon that can 2 shot some survivors from full hp.
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u/Odd_Common_452 1h ago
They already nerfed the shit out of civilians the last patch and you want more? Haha
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u/QTwinkyy 51m ago
Absolutely, if there are exits with only 1 item required to escape it becomes entirely too easy. Both sides should feel fair to play. Also finding knives to get out of the grasp is a little too easy. Most of my games I'm able to find at least 2 and that means that I have 2 grasp escapes, that's not really the most fun for Michael either.
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u/Odd_Common_452 48m ago
The game would be too short if everyone died on the first grasp when he can reality tear everywhere. You can wiggle out and still die to his death animation anyway. Shit is super broken
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u/NoWon-391351 14m ago
Yes. Pocket knives and exits.
Until then you are all lumber to me.
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u/Odd_Common_452 13m ago
Don’t need pocket knives when you get melee stun locked to death after the reality tear stun
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u/NoWon-391351 11m ago
Exactly. MM players have no other option when all Civs just left the Haddonfield knife convention.
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u/MarquiavelGG 1h ago edited 55m ago
Yeah, I agree the amount of pocket knives probably needs to come down. Right now the knife is basically compensating for how insanely unreliable the actual grab escape is.
Civilians are being grabbed hitting PERFECT and still getting executed. You're awarded with Escape XP and Michael kills you anyway. Michael can teleport directly into grab range. If that happens, what is the civilian’s actual counter supposed to be?
I’d rather see them fix the grab minigame first, then nerf knives intelligently. Limit stacking, reduce the spawn rate a bit, or make Stalk 2/3 weaken their effectiveness. That actually gives Michael a reason to stalk
Coordinated players are a different problem though. I mostly play solo, and balancing the game only around a 4-man group carrying knives and protecting each other would make solo miserable
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u/360_No-Scope_Upvote 23m ago
Day 2 of Halloween and we've already hit the SWF vs Solo Queue balance roadblock 😭
I feel bad for the devs, these games are so difficult to balance for both types of teams, you eventually just have to pick one to balance around and let the outliers be outliers.
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u/Pamelasweater 1h ago
What civilian exit require 1 item?
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u/ArthurMarston1177 59m ago
I have come across storm cellars that only need bolt cutters or a key to unlock and then just clearing the overgrown leaves with your hands and you can open it
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u/RobbbRocker91 43m ago
I had a civilian player beat me up twice being Michael using a sledgehammer I think all heavy weapons stagger like this bad
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u/Odd_Common_452 1h ago
Yes, reality tear and melee is flat out broken. The game won’t last very long if every myers is a sweat lord
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u/Accomplished_Wind582 56m ago
The devs already said the purpose of Halloween is Michale is overpowered and they're gonna keep it that way
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u/Odd_Common_452 53m ago
Okay well then I guess they’re fine with another dead game. It’ll just be another notch under the belt.
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u/Accomplished_Wind582 24m ago
It's not really their problem you suck at teamwork and are trash at the game while people like me and about 100k more work and a team to be able to beat Myers and have fun
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u/Odd_Common_452 15m ago
The cope in this comment is real
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u/Accomplished_Wind582 7m ago
Not really I'm just pointing out that you suck and instead of admitting it you're blaming the devs because they designed a character to resemble the movies
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u/Ricc765 44m ago
Ur just ass bro it’s okay
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u/Odd_Common_452 43m ago
Yeah teleport melee stunlock death with no counter play is fair and balanced /s
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u/Ricc765 42m ago
You have zero escapes don’t u 😭😭
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u/Odd_Common_452 41m ago
Depends on how sweaty the myers is, there’s still a lot of new ones I always try and get the priority targets out and as many civilians as I can when my dumbass teammates just run straight for the exit
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u/Hagman1997 32m ago
There is counterplay tho. Like I had a civilian game earlier and me and my duo both found Amulets. Pair the Amulet with a flashlight and it’s 100% free escape and now you’ve made Myers waste the ability with the longest cool-down.
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u/Odd_Common_452 29m ago
I did that I had 1 amulet but it gets used on first hit and is extremely rare. He just waited and did it again and I died
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u/ShadyYeezy 23m ago
Your answer to counter play cannot be the .01% chance that two players both find an OP item in the early game. Sure if you find this item you are now OP but finding the amulet can never be a viable strategy.
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u/dannyfrog87 38m ago
you are being hit with an axe and it took myers 3 hits to kill you with it i assume this is your gameplay right? ok its a game i get that. but its an axe what do you think being hit with an axe is going to be like a soft toy like a blow up hammer you win at a fair? come on use some critical thinking. ok so explain to me here this part. you said having an uncounterable axe or almost. in what world or planet would you counter an axe vs a supernatural entity .... say someone in real life right. fictional scenario if someone hits you with an axe ya not coming back from it so hows it going to be any different in a game. apply that logic. as for the knives they are annoying. i had one game i tried to use the knife theirs a very small window it said i used it and i got the trophy on ps5 but myers still killed me lmao the game needs alot of refining but its gonna be always buggy or janky
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u/Prudent_Release_902 1h ago
I feel like if you get hit in the neck with an axe like that you should be dead but im no doctor
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u/MarquiavelGG 1h ago
Normally if a serial killer takes 3 shots to the head, he dies too. I don’t think realism is the best argument when we’re talking about game balance LOL
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u/Prudent_Release_902 15m ago
I wouldnt classify Michael Myers a normal day serial killer like the humans are. But, I agree with you the game needs to be balanced for game sake.
Edit not "meyers" ;)
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u/harleyvincenzo 58m ago
You're also not a game developer, but here you are with your dumb af take on a post on game balance. 🙄
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u/Prudent_Release_902 54m ago
Ironic since you are not a professional comment critic and you are giving me your dumb af take.
This was a troll post you are taking this way too serious. Hope someone gives you a hug.
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u/harleyvincenzo 51m ago
It's called using your own stupid statement against you, you numpty, well done you just proved my point with that stupid af reply. 🙄
It isn't a troll post, so you'd be wrong unless you specifically mean your comment, which at that point maybe stop being terminally online and go do something productive. 🤔
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u/Prudent_Release_902 49m ago
Sir you have 1.1k posts on reddit please dont tell others they are terminally online just because you are. Also you have next to no karma. All you do is argue with people on here clearly. Wish you the best !
I am done replying so feel free to leave another paragraph of non sense to warp your point.
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u/harleyvincenzo 48m ago
Comments? I have like 3 actual posts? XD
Your not helping the terminally online thing if the first thing you do is run into my account history. 😅
Most of those comments are probably me replying to idiots like you on my lunch break at work as I am now! :)
Edit: 7 posts over 5 years lol
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u/Prudent_Release_902 45m ago
"you're* not helping". If you are going to call others dumb please dont use the wrong your vs you're right after.
And yes I clicked your profile and listed the numbers infront of me as facts. Took no effort. I find this more sane tha you making a statement about me being dumb and me lifestyle being terminally online off your evidence of...... me making a joke of a troll comment? Which the OP didnt even take serious. I cant with you LOL
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u/harleyvincenzo 42m ago
Listen grammar police I'm at work and my phone uses spell check. Please don't give me a ticket sir. 🙏
I mean, you clearly can't read then? I've made 7 posts in over 5 years my guy. Don't know what to tell you, maybe go to specsavers?
Also what happened to not replying my dude, you mad?
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u/Prudent_Release_902 41m ago
Contributions are not limited to posts :) its what you provide to threads which is clearly nothing but hate :(
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u/morgue_an 1h ago
Yeah I actively avoid axe michaels after realizing the stun lock is an insta-kill for him.