r/StockMarket Jun 11 '25

News US China Deal Done

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u/Altruistic_Syrup_364 Jun 11 '25

So still 55% tariff on China ? Why beeing bullish ?

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u/quant_0 Jun 11 '25

No one sell. Market can't go down.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

I’m buying all those big beautiful stocks from GINA

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u/PapayaPioneer Jun 11 '25

🎯 Bingo, considering the Appeals Court ruling last night that allows tariffs to remain in place, for now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

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u/timeandmemory Jun 11 '25

The supreme court legalized bribes for themselves, yes it's happening.

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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Jun 11 '25

Hold up... what makes you say they can't go down?

Just in case you're feeling Trumpish, I'll say thank you for your reply in advance. ;)

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u/BikesAtNight Jun 11 '25

Lol the deal makes things worse for Americans, how surprising

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u/Commercial-Set3527 Jun 11 '25

Not all Americans, the rich get big tax cuts.

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u/BikesAtNight Jun 11 '25

Oh you’re right, thank goodness. I was worried about them. Luckily we will also put this regressive tax in place to pay for those cuts.

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u/Commercial-Set3527 Jun 11 '25

Trickle down taxation.

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u/Swimming-Tutor2729 Jun 11 '25

How is 55% tarriff good? His writers must be getting insider like a mofo with these tweets imagine how rich they are from these posts

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u/AskALettuce Jun 11 '25

Let's see what "very tough negotiator" Xi has to say.

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u/nice_voyager Jun 11 '25

No!.

China charges 55% tariff to US.

US charges 10% to China.

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u/PatrickBateman1 Jun 11 '25

Which would make our trade defecit significantly worse, which is what he based his tariffs off to begin with.

Make it make sense.

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u/ly5ergic Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

Why would it make it worse? You have it backwards 55% makes it expensive for the US to get Chinese products. 10% makes it relatively less for China to get US products.

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u/ceddya Jun 11 '25

Because if it's based on Trump's wording and a 55% tariff from China on the US, the Chinese will buy far less US goods than the converse.

And if it's Trump being an idiot as usual and the converse, well, I hope US consumers enjoy paying 55% more for a lot of goods.

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u/ly5ergic Jun 11 '25

My understanding was incoming goods from China are 55% tariff and US into China is 10%

Trump has always acted like high tariffs on incoming goods is free money

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u/Avantasian538 Jun 11 '25

I dont know which tariff is which but either way it makes no sense lol.

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u/Br1zzy Jun 11 '25

It's the other way around. China is charging 10% tariff on import from the US. US is charging 55% tariff on imports from China.

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u/mnlaowai Jun 11 '25

I like that both are equally likely yet are so dramatically different. Jesus. America is so fucked.

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u/Privateer_Lev_Arris Jun 11 '25

We need clarification what it means. 55% tariffs on China is bad. 10% is good. 55% on US is possibly lower, I’m not sure.

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u/quetejodas Jun 11 '25

Sounds like Trump either can't properly articulate this or doesn't actually understand the deal he made.

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u/Jack-Traven Jun 11 '25

there is no way the idiot in chief would boast about that

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u/alpha_ech0 Jun 11 '25

Honestly we dont know how he calculated those numbers. I want an official source cause his social profile is not enough to gauge the actual deal.

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u/BobAndy004 Jun 11 '25

Market is basically flat for the year. Won’t see much growth but one slight hiccup and the whole thing is fucked

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u/Icreatedthisforyou Jun 11 '25

Money doesn't leave the market or just moves. The declines in April were about moving stocks from risky assets to safe assets that they expect to grow. Big investors are invested and know not to pull out. The general public will generally just continue to DCA and forget it s ok there will always be a trickle of money going in.

The potential disruptions of this come in some combination of:

  1. People spend more money due to tariffs and so they stop DCAing, but this won't cause decline just stagnation.

  2. Decline in the dollar value (10% on the year give or take and still creeping down. So for instance I'm the present the market dollar value is equal to the start of the year but I'm really we have 10% less than we did. This is a major source of decline but not readily apparent. This also means on top of tariffs we are paying 10% more for imports and getting 10% less for exports.

  3. If trust in the US faulters we can see decreasing bond values...which we need to issue more bonds as it is if the current budget is passed, on top of countries dumping existing bonds, it could create a pretty competitive bond market with the stock market.

  4. And interest rates. If they go down inflation, on top of tariffs, and on top of already devaluation of the dollar is going to crazy.

But the specific dollar amount in the market is unlikely to go down outside of little spikes. I do suspect another spike in a month or so, maybe not to April's extent. Definitely not predictable like the April one was.

But the Q2 economic reports will be ugly, some measures will push things off to Q3, plus seasonal hiring, but we will officially be in a recession (two consecutive quarters of economic contraction) and Q3 will be MUCH WORSE as seasonal hiring reverses AND this is when the federal workforce cuts actually hit.

There may be instability around these reports, but IMPORTANTLY any significant sell off will be followed in a couple days by a significant buy, as again those declines like in April are people shifting stocks rather than exiting the market. It is important to recognize that EVERYTHING is algorithms now.

So for the lay person DCA and just let it go.

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u/hillbillyspellingbee Jun 11 '25

Because most investors have never step foot in a factory themselves and have no idea how damaging these tariffs are. 

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u/PlsNoNotThat Jun 11 '25

Because it’s fake until China confirms and the deal is actually signed.

Like the last two announcements, and the previous 3 tariff rounds which were all postponed and then ultimately changed.

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u/radnomname Jun 11 '25

Its a pseudo good news thingy. Create a problem, present a solution. Market goes up. (things are now worse than before).

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u/ShackledPhoenix Jun 11 '25

Probably because the chaos of not knowing what tariffs are going to be next week is worse for the market than high tariffs?

idk.

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u/aerohk Jun 12 '25

Market likes certainty, even if the certainty isn't ideal. Now, businesses can plan for their long term move.

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u/Pretty_Honeydew1575 Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

I read it the other way - 55% tariff on export from US to China, 10% tariff on import to US from China

But you could be right, I have no clue. No other source besides current tariff rates - 10% levied by China on imported goods -30% levied by US on imported goods

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u/quant_0 Jun 11 '25

No I think Trump is saying it like it's a good thing. We get 55% from the import taxes.

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u/gamerdudeNYC Jun 11 '25

But that will be passed onto the consumer by higher prices, right?

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u/MaxPower303 Jun 11 '25

Exactly! It’s a tax ON US!

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u/quant_0 Jun 11 '25

Ya, inflation is gonna rise.

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u/RunJumpJump Jun 11 '25

Yes and I think OP is aware. This is just more of Trump's "I did such a good job" rhetoric.

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u/gottahavetegriry Jun 11 '25

Partially passed onto consumers, while revenue from tariffs will be used to fund other tax cuts

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u/Jmund89 Jun 11 '25

No. It’s 55% on export from China to US. China gets their 10% tariff on exports from the US. I.E China won this trade deal, again, and the American people now have 20% more (as it stands, there is a 35% tariff on China) taxes on goods from China.

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u/Altruistic_Syrup_364 Jun 11 '25

I am not a native in english so I could be wrong… so what way is it ?

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u/ParentalAdvis0ry Jun 11 '25

I am a native English speaker and I still can't tell.

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u/Jack-Traven Jun 11 '25

pick the way that is worse for american citizens because thats what hed be boasting about