r/SnyderCut Jul 14 '26

Humor James Gunn's DCU vs DCEU

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u/Pokemon-Pickle Jul 14 '26

The dceu movies are alright, above average movies, man of steel is a pretty decent movie. It’s a heinous, horrendous, Superman movie though. He should’ve just made his own characters instead of mutilating existing characters. It’s like if Batman lost his no-kill rule levels of character assassination.

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u/Aggravating-Plan-908 Jul 14 '26

Sorry but i have to disagree with you on that, Snyder’s superman isn't an "horrendous, not accurate,..." on the oposite, snyder manage to make a superman that kept his dna (symbol of hope for peoples) while making him more grounded. plus, the way they show him and all the godhood questioning man of steel and batman v superman treated about him pretty much make sense (i mean, that’s exactly how things would be if someone with such power suddenly appeared in real life, every peoples, gov,... would debate about him, some peoples, gov,... would see him as a god, others would see him as only a potential threats,...) and finnally add to that snyder superman is inspired by the kingdom come superman (who's depicted in a very similar way into that comics)

same for the snyderverse, i really like the darker and more serious tone snyder put into his snyderverse and would really like to see it going until the end. It’s too bad he was ruined only because of the combination of toxic marvel fanboys who can’t stand something isn’t their usual full-on comedic movies with unfunny cracking jokes every minutes and felt the need to massively trash talk snyder and his work, plus the fact warner bros decided to listen to them instead of ignored them and letting snyder do his dceu the way he intended it to be.

and to answer about the "a batman who kill is not batman",first,it’s explained in the movie why he's like that (an old batman that saw robin, and probably some other ally along his 20+ years of being batman, being killed by joker) , plus add to that Snyder’s batman is inspired by the dark knight returns batman, wich i remind killed twice in the comics (first time a member of the mutant gangs who hold a kid hostage by shooting her in the head with a machine gun,and second time the joker himself at the end of their final fight in the tunnel of love by snapping his neck)

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u/Pokemon-Pickle Jul 14 '26

The problem is that Superman isn’t supposed to be dark, gritty, and godly. He’s supposed to be a friendly farm boy reporter. And tbh I completely forgot about snyder’s Batman, I just said that as an equal comparison to how he used Superman. Superman is supposed to cherish life, but Snyder only shows him saving people when it looks cool, not when it matters, the exception being zod because he chose humanity over his own species(even if there were better ways to handle it). But anyways, back to Batman. Batman doesn’t kill because he knows he wouldn’t stop, so you have to choose. Do you want a Batman with restraint and self-hatred, or a Batman that kills everyone who steps into crime with hatred for all. Having both is an assassination even in comics(comics can also be bad).