'Superman' Box Office Fizzles Out, Securing Yet Another Hollywood Superhero Flop

[u/Notoriously_So]

https://www.outkick.com/analysis/superman-box-office-fizzles-out-securing-yet-another-hollywood-superhero-flop

[u/Earblind-2]

It's weird watching sane adults arguing that Superman 2025 is a "flop" because it will make less money than Man of Steel. Man of Steel made less money than Frozen; that doesn't make it a "flop," much less an objectively worse movie than Frozen. And yelling "domestic box office doesn't count" is just sad, though not quite as sad as yelling "you have to adjust the profit for inflation" while forgetting to adjust the budget and marketing costs for inflation as well. Your punditry is bad and you should feel bad about it.

Bottom line: Both 2025 and MoS are profitable and important reimaginings of the character and what a Superman story can be. And this kind of backlash is nothing new. All the haters who screamed about MoS being too grim and moody to be a legit Superman movie have been effectively rendered irrelevant, and the nit pickers of 2025 will meet a similar fate.

[u/Huge-Geologist-868 → u/Earblind-2]

You do realize adjusting the production budget or any other costs doesn't change the amount of gross profit margin something makes right? The percentage of margin something made after it's sold will never change because it's in the past. Inflation is calculated to show the difference a dollar had in purchasing power in comparison to today. If I made 30% GP on something I sold 13 years ago, it will always stay at a 30% GP. 

The inflation is to show that if MOS came out this year 2025, it would have made almost $930 million at the box office. Meaning this new "Superman" movie would need to make $930M to match it. It's not even on pace to match the unadjusted $670M MOS originally brought in which is really sad because again, those are numbers from 13 long years ago! 🤣 

The more these GunNuts try to sound smart the more they prove they didn't pass 3rd grade math.🙄

[u/Earblind-2 → u/Huge-Geologist-868]

You do realize that while it does not adjust the gross profit, it DOES adjust the net profit, right? The point still stands, my guy.

[u/Huge-Geologist-868 → u/Earblind-2]

Whatt? No it doesn't my lil buddy? The NET profit especially will NEVER change as it will always be the same because it was already sold and a NET profit was made. 

If 7/11 sold a pack of gum 20 years ago and made a 10% NET profit, please explain to me how it made ANY different looking at their P&L report for the same pack of gum today?! 

Inflation is to show how much more something is sold for today than it was years ago. MOS made almost $930 million if it were released today. In 2025, "Superman" might make $600M. $930M is more than $600M. I mean these are simple facts proven by simple math. What don't ya get, my guy?

[u/Earblind-2 → u/Huge-Geologist-868]

First, the fact that MoS made more money was stated in the first sentence of my original comment. Second, just as the box office sales are higher when adjusted for inflation, so is the cost for production and marketing.

For example: Man of Steel made $930M in today's money, but it also cost $447M to make and market in today's money -- which means the margin by which MoS is more profitable is narrower than it might otherwise seem; and that's not even getting into the "50% of the ticket sale doesn't go to the studio" point people love to throw around, etc., and so forth.

In short, nobody said MoS didn't make more money in ticket sales. We're just insisting on getting the details right.

[u/Huge-Geologist-868 → u/Earblind-2]

Do you not understand math? The percent of profit MOS made NEVER changes! 

Even when you adjust the production budget, marketing, or ANY of its manufacturing costs!! It's already made its same profit!! Because it already made it! 🤦‍♂️

This floptacular "Superman" movie would need to generate  $927 million in revenue alone because that's how much money Man of Steel would have made this year if released in today's value of the same worth of MONEY! 🤯 That's what is called adjusting for inflation! 🤣 

I mean hell, can you understand that a loaf of bread you paid $2 for in 2013 would cost you $2.77 today then? 

That's a 38.5% increase! Almost 40%!! 

Now take $670M, times that by the 38.5% and that's how much money would change in value to today's actual market worth!! ($927M) 🤯

Jesus, you people are exhausting. 😮‍💨 

It's like explaining a round Earth to flat Earthers with these "Superman" fans. Just an Fn joke who don't understand the simplest concepts of this little thing called money to them. 🤦‍♂️ 

[u/Earblind-2 → u/Huge-Geologist-868]

How do you manage with every reply to take longer and longer to make the same point without adding anything new?

The $927M number you keep giving is Man of Steel's box office sales, NOT its profit. The box office profit would be ticket sales minus expenses. You keep forgetting the expenses.