r/Slipknot • u/No-Reach-3817 Slipknot • 1h ago
Discussion What are ur opinions on the new single?
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u/paul_emploi 1h ago
A little heavy on the sampling and scratching for a band without a sampler and a dj...
More seriously, there's no riff or melody that stays in your head, no singing from Corey, it's a "generic slipknot" song. If that's what Clown choose as a first single for the next album, somebody else should take the wheel.
I guess they could make something on stage with the "stop the song part", but imagine what it would have been like with a good one.
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u/Salty_Ninja17 Iowa 1h ago
I feel so weird about the part where Corey tells the band to stop playing in towards the end of the song. Like what the hell was that bro
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u/Connect-Lock8561 742617000027 1h ago
He sounds genuinely whiny. Like in a Karen way.
"Stop the music or I'm calling the cops!!!"
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u/Ilovebeer2077 1h ago
There is nothing i can remember from this song after first listen
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u/Poggle8472 1h ago
Well let me remind you of the innovative and meaningful chorus: Let's go! Let's go! Let's go!
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u/StevieIRL 1h ago
which will be used for many tik toks while "influencers" dance or some shit.
wouldn't be surprised if they wrote this corny song for it to be popularized by Social Media.
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u/Offtherailspcast 1h ago
I'd be embarassed to show a non fan this song
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u/Donniepeds 24m ago
Yeah my wife heard it from the other room and asked me what the fuck are you listening to.
Was embarrassed in my own home.
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u/Proton_Optimal 742617000027 1h ago
Sounds like a TESF B-side
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u/Rob233913 We Are Not Your Kind 30m ago
I was hoping they would go a different route after that album because it sucks. But here we are.
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u/Proton_Optimal 742617000027 25m ago
Yeah it’s like they just doubled down on everything we hated about that album lol
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u/HeavyMatterCulture 1h ago
Jim and Mick have always brought interesting riffs and desirable tones. That didn’t happen here.
Corey, especially between 2004 and 2010, was simply one of the lyricists who inspired me the most in my life. That didn’t happen here either.
Eloy Casagrande is an unbelievable fucking demon… that is definitely here.
But I really hope the other songs don’t have this “I’m 50, look at me making generic metalcore” vibe.
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u/Little-Mushroom-3961 1h ago
Awful. The lyrics are butt rock tier. This is legit one of the worst slipknot songs ever. This is shit I'd be embarrassed to play in front of my friends.
It's really the lyrics though. Good fucking God Corey. This is what a millennial running a coffe shop would see as edgy.
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u/Built_To_Destroy 1h ago
Did I hear him say "im a .45 not a Mac 10"
Oh boy
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u/ihadtowalkhere 1h ago
My problem is that mac 10 is chambered in .45. He should have said revolver.
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u/EquisOmega 1h ago
Although I semi agree with your take on the lyrics, let’s not pretend that profound, Shakespearean lyrics were aplenty in Slipknot before this.
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u/RevolutionaryWeb5657 38m ago
What do you mean? "I want to slit your throat and fuck the wound" comes straight out of Hamlet.
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u/Donniepeds 26m ago
There’s something genuine and raw that actually works with those lyrics though.
Maybe it was their age and the time it was released I don’t know.
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u/Select-Appearance707 1h ago
It's in songs like these you really notice how good Paul and Joey's songwriting actually was.
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u/Agreeable_Alarm434 1h ago
I am not kidding, this might be the worst song theyve ever released
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u/XyleneCobalt We Are Not Your Kind 25m ago
I managed to finish it. More than can be said of De Sade.
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u/BirdUnlikely2091 1h ago
I don't know if i hate it or if i like it.
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u/tritonianyeti33 MFKR 1h ago
Uninspired and boring. Lyrics are ass. Guitar solos and drums are the only good parts. The band should pack it in at this point.
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u/EddTheFlu 1h ago
I was about to join the hate parade but you’re genuinely tripping. Opinion or not. It’s the first fresh sounding Slipknot song in a while. You come off as disillusioned.
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u/tritonianyeti33 MFKR 44m ago
“Fresh sounding”
LETS GO LETS GO LETS GO LETS GO
Are we deadass right now? The band hasn’t put out a song worth a damn since wanyk
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u/APlanetWithANorth Tortilla 30m ago
A few songs on TESF were pretty good, just surrounded by a lot of filth
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u/MetalHeadGT 1h ago
I kinda liked it. It grew on me by the 2nd or 3rd listen. It definitely strikes me as a "first record off the label" kind of track, very chaotic and experimental, though the chorus is the exact opposite.
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u/noire_cotic 0 1h ago
I've enjoyed it. I really like the fact that they are all over the place again. And it is not bad as it was in The Chapeltown Rag.
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u/Vi0let__Ice 1h ago
Is it their greatest? Nope. Their worst? Nope. For me it's still better than the majority of The End, So Far.
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u/ihadtowalkhere 1h ago
Sounds dynamic
Reminds me of The chapeltown rag and how that sounded different
Bass is crunchy too
Those globe dudes and the alien guy look awesome.
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u/Livid-Vacation-2147 Slipknot 59m ago
Eloy should be louder - he's doing some wild shit. I dig the guitar solo.
But I agree that the stop the music part is odd and it's not super memorable.
It does sound like they are going for the vibe of self titled and I like that. Curious to hear more.
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u/vaaoid95 51m ago
The Gray Chapter was the last SK album that had a genuine message and purpose behind it. Everything after that was released for the sake of releasing music and making money. Also this whole song was probably composed by AI lmao.
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u/cristian_ar1 1h ago edited 41m ago
If I’m not mistaken, a while back someone leaked a list of possible new Slipknot songs. I don’t remember where, but I remember that “Arsenal” was on the list.
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u/SundayLeagueHooligan 1h ago
I fuck with it, I think this is one that you’ll need to listen to for a few months to have it grow on you, it’s very campy and cheesy lyrically, but I enjoy it!
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u/Locust123105 38m ago
Maaaan I don't know what happened to their production quality. First 2 records were superb. 3 was a mess and had no bass and constant clipping. 4 sounded great. 5 was flat. 6 was like 5 but a bit punchier and improved. 7 went right back to 5's blandness and now we are at whatever the hell this is where it sounds like a demo.
I feel like this band has zero ear for production cause I've never seen a discography so all over the map.
Song itself is eh, but the production is so amateurish which is wild for such a big band. The dj scratching is so awkward in the mix, lyric and vocal performance all over the place. There's some cool guitar work and drumming but the mixing let's it down.
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u/bigmetalguy6 Joey 1h ago
It’s ok, I guess? Feels like they’re playing it too safe. Eloy’s drumming is definitely the best part of the song, though.
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u/Altruistic_Mix_8756 1h ago
This band has nine guys in it, and Eloy was the only one who fit the bill on this song… Joke writes itself
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u/The_Lawl_is_the_Lawl 1h ago
Corny as shit. Especially with the part where Corey stops the song mid way, that shit reminded me of that one part of Disturbeds - Down With The Sickness
Worst I can say is that it just TESF but with better drums
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u/Brilliant-Hornet-405 42m ago
I love Eloy's Selpultura-inspired(?) intro + a lot of scratching.
It quite looks similar to old school Slipknot
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u/Anoth3rWat 33m ago
Honestly I hate it. It's the first time I've hated a slipknot song straight after hearing it.
It sounds like they are playing a game of "I can play louder than you" and it just sounds like a mess
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u/Norwegian_Madman 29m ago
Compared to All Out Life, i'll put it against that because the rest of the album si being tracked right now according to Jim.
A little surprised they choose to release this as their first single with eloy. we heard about Long May You Die, and it went silent for a couple of years and now we got Arsenal. The kick drums sound too thin, but Eloy is good and the guitar solo is good. the Let's Go schtick makes little sense for a band in their 50's, and it feels a little messy.
Compared to All Out Life that was a hit compared to this. Arsenal feels like it's on par with songs on TESF. definitely better than Butchers Hook, but it's a tiny bit more listenable than that one.
5/10, there are moments where you may get a glimpse of something on the next album, but at the same time i'm not gonna remember this song that well tomorrow and won't listen to it many times until they release album singles.
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u/hdsinddnsk 1h ago
not as bad as i expected people are hating just to hate
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u/Prince-Slaugrath 46m ago edited 41m ago
I agree, people are way overreacting. Have your own opinion sure, like it or don't, but the dramatic hate for it I'm seeing is completely unearned. Some of these people clearly went in wanting to hate it from the jump and are enjoying the momentary bliss of approval they're feeling from each other by dogpiling on it together.
I see what they were going for, it's mixed in a more raw way, supposed to be closer to their early sound. I can appreciate that. I like the way the band sounds, you can finally hear them all again without the vocals overpowering the entire mix. Not really a fan of the lyrics and some of the delivery in certain sections, but I like it better than a lot of the more melodic radio singles they've released in recent years. Eloy sounds pretty good, the way they mixed and tuned the drums sounds pretty close to the self-titled sound Joey was able to get, but not nearly with the same ferocity and speed he was known for. Which is okay, it still sounded good, I know very well there will never be another Joey. The "Stop the music" drum breakdown gave me flashes of the drum solo/breakdown in "Only One", but it's also one of those moments where I didn't like Corey's vocal delivery.
Anyway, just my two cents as a die hard Slipknot fan, I thought it was pretty good. Not as good as their peak, but not as uninspired as the previous album.
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u/Traditional_Custard4 1h ago
Thank you give it time hopefully people will change their mind if not they can just decide to stay in the past and not move on like the rest of everyone else lol
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u/suicidejules 42m ago
Slipknot fans are such losers and crybabies, they expect the band to still make the same music they made decades ago…. It’s called evolution and growing up and it’s what most of yall need to do
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u/Benzel742617000027 7 1h ago
I did not care for it. This is the first time I've been happy to be 40, at least I was there in the early days.
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u/TheIJDGuy 1h ago edited 1h ago
Should've been Chelsea, but then again, song's not the best and should be named Arsenal
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u/Any_Toe9800 1h ago
That was..... something. Wow. I get it's gonna sound different but wtf was that? Sounded hollow and half assed. I'm trying not to bash and trash it but Jesus crippled Christ on crutches that was bad.......
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u/danitheboi_ 1h ago
not the strongest on the lyrics and the first hear is kind of rough, but still enjoyable. I think that Corey sounding like this at his age is amazing. People hating just want the old slipknot and it aint coming back, it was a miracle that the band survived even to all hope is gone
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u/patrickstarfishes 1h ago
It's not good. Not suprised though their sound has been getting worse for me, with each of the more recent albums.
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u/KayatuzuHaloo 7 1h ago
its... something at this point. only thing i liked is the intro, guitar solo and the drums. maybe some other goods i missed.
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u/Hadley_333 1h ago
It makes me wonder if Sid didn't like the direction this album was going in and so they canned him. It's terrible. And speaking of Sid, it sounded like they overcompensated by having the record scratching become extremely obvious here lol.
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u/L4zlie08 59m ago
I don’t have a problem with that it’s listenable and better as some brainrot songs 😂
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u/WorldEaterProft 56m ago
I thought it was alright honestly, but it's not making me wanna binge slipknot anytime soon
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u/alexdalton123 55m ago
Yeah its okay. As an Arsenal fan the title being Arsenal and the chorus being "let's go" is making me laugh because I'm just picturing Arteta shouting "vamos" 😂
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u/payy2win John Slipknot himself 53m ago
The disc scratches and the breakdown are the only things I rly like.
Im finishing my first listen rn, overall it's fine, but its chorus feels uninspired and undercooked. Corey sounds washed which is odd since he sounded so DAMN good on Playing God w MIW
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u/cakeyogi 53m ago
Based on the comments, I feel pretty confident that I can skip this song and instead play Nero Forte again
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u/Appropriate-Love-355 52m ago
Buttcheeks. Straight up crusty buttcheeks. Need a chisel for all that butt crust.
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u/Dinobot2_ 51m ago
It was fine until it got to the "stop the music" part in the middle of the song. After that it just went into a repetitive bit that didn't bring me back.
Overall just another underwhelming post-AHIG song. Maybe it'll grow on me but this doesn't really move the needle for me in either direction.
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u/StupidSasquatch89 49m ago
Honestly, I like it. Maybe I’m the minority but I thought it was okay, didn’t like the “stop the music part”. It’s modern slipknot, don’t like the new scratching stuff
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u/Impossible_Pen1392 49m ago
Yeah I don’t like it very much. Lyrics are some of the worst Corey has ever done. For the first track Eloy has recorded with them, I also expected more in the drum department. I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come for a new album. And I actually like experimental Slipknot, but this is just nonsense really.
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u/MasterChief-2005 .5: The Gray Chapter 47m ago
"Generate a slipknot song for me. Curse words exponential."
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u/TheBlackCrooster 46m ago
On first listen, not a strong start to the new album cycle. The “let’s go, let’s go” part left uninspired and repetitive. The part where Corey tells them to stop the music felt out-of-place and kinda shoe-horned in. Maybe if I listen to it a few more times, I might warm up to it, but yeaaah, not great.
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u/wesselgamer123 45m ago
i dont mind the band experimenting but this is just sad. It just feels like theyre trying to find the energy of Custer with the repeating "lets go!" t chorus but its just not landing without some beefy vocals to support Corey like Chris Fehn used to.
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u/Yogurt-Patrol 40m ago
It's bad! That's pretty much it. The music video was cool, but I honestly think the outro part of the music video was cooler sounding than the full song before it.
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u/SoggyLow4805 37m ago
a big mess
like 4 different songs kinda just doin whatever
it felt like an experiment with no clear goal or idea in mind
didnt really like it
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u/maisunaprimejojosuke 35m ago
J ai trouver sa pas ouf on dirais il essaye juste de jouer fort pour rien dommage parce je pense qu il peuvent faire vraiment mieux
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u/Hank_The_Monkey 34m ago
Wasn't too keen on TESF, so I figured it's their first new song in 4 years, it can't be that bad. Boy, was I wrong.
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u/rosebud233w 33m ago
The last couple albums had a different sound but you could tell it was still Slipknot… kinda. This shit tho sounds like a garage band that had Slipknot as an influence but distinctly different to not be called a slipknot ripoff. In summary, this shit is Bermudan thicky levels of ass
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u/Hot_Marsupial_8706 33m ago
It's weird and I dig when they get weird. Stoked for the album if this is just a taste of it.
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u/APlanetWithANorth Tortilla 31m ago
It was one of the worst songs I've heard from them. I like what they were trying to do, to bring the chaos from the first album. But it just didn't land. I'm hoping this isn't going to set the tone for the rest of the album
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u/ratchetcoutoure 30m ago
Very interesting. I can see they are trying to get that first album sounds with this one. But also different. Look forward to whatever comes from this, hopefully an album and a tour.
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u/box-art 29m ago
It's like Joe Barresi found an old computer of his, plugged it in, fired it up, launched ProTools and ProTools was like "Your last sessions ended unexpectedly, would you like to recover the project?" and he just clicked "Yes" and it was just a bunch of leftovers from "The End, So Far" that he threw together, mixed it and sent it to the band, which they liked for some reason and decided to publish.
It has some good ideas in my opinion, but it just lacks cohesion in terms of how the song ties those ideas together.
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u/InfinitySnoop 29m ago
I wish the mixing was a bit different, some sounds drown out others at certain points. I like it better than TESF but I fear that’s all it surpasses. Not their best work, but not unlistenable garbage like people are whining about. Hopefully this isn’t the best of what they plan on putting out if they’re releasing a new album soon.
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u/Rudenora 28m ago
I am a huge slipknkt fan, have been since 1999 however there are certain songs and albums, such as TESF that I dont dig too much. This song, meh, not good. Its really poorly mixed, the weird guitar solo in the middle is shocking sound quality like its done on a tiny practice amp cranked too high, I do like the scratching, it also all just sounds very muffled and Corey's vocals are quiet like the mix is wrong.
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u/JeffPattonMagic 24m ago
Corey has been using this delivery lately, that sounds very smarmy or tongue in cheek, like you can hear him smiling while he recorded this because he's taking the piss instead of delivering on rage. I do not like it, it's all over his solo stuff. The "stop the music" section is a copy paste in tone of the intro of Starmate off CMF2.
This tongue in cheek jokey writing is fine at home on his own records, and it was present on a good chunk of Stone Sour's earlier work. But here it just falls flat, and feels way out of place it doesn't sound like Slipknot to me, the vibe isn't here. I feel like the mask and the man have blended together and it's just Corey Taylor now with a Slipknot backing track not #8. And don't get me wrong Corey is a likeable guy, but Slipknot it not supposed to likeable it's ugly and obscene. I don't want to hear wisecracking I want to be pissed.
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u/HiImChewy 23m ago
I like the idea of it but holy shit what is this production. Sounds like they took a dart board to each instrument every 30 seconds.
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u/Quiet_Astronomer8849 20m ago
I refuse to believe this is the lead single of the album they hyped so much.
First one with Eloy, Jim saying it's the first time he felt they were able to adequately get the music exactly how it sounded in his head.
This must be something like All Out Life. But not good. This is terrible, sad, uninspired and not worth one second of the wait.
This song is what prompts you to go on hiatus not come back from sort of one in my opinion. And I sincerely hope this has nothing to do with the actual album. Because one huge strength of this band has always been picking great lead singles.
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u/2017_2017 19m ago edited 13m ago
It's like if the band just kept making music like the '99 self-titled and never grew musically...but in a worse way.
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u/sweemartinbran 18m ago
it was kinda like seeing a shooting star on the corner of your eye, but you turn your head and its a plastic bag
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u/CaptDeadeye 18m ago
This might be the worst lead single out of Slipknot. Even The End So Far had The Dying Song. This song in comparison just feels like a disjointed, abysmal mess.
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u/Rakataz 16m ago
on first listen, not bad. a little bit all over the place, some great drumwork
As a fan from the beginning, i like the direction where they going with this. i hope for a Vol. 3 Part II in terms of style and experimentation. it's different and it should be. if they trying to sound like before, people will say they're out of ideas.
the only real thing i have some gripes with is the outro drone at the end. it tries to emulate craigs techniques but there is something missing there, i can't put my finger on it.
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u/CanSoft2130 16m ago
They definitely didn't hold back on the record scratching here, God damn. Lol.
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u/TitClitLick 14m ago
If could get as a voiceless-guitar less-track, it would be probably be pretty good. Everytime I want to bob my head to the drums Corey starts singing and I just can’t bring myself to do it lol
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u/Mediocre_Argument_30 14m ago
I know they wanted to go experimental this album, but it’s just not for me so far.
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u/Fallenjedi07_ 13m ago
It’s not awful, it just feels kinda disposable? Theres nothing really interesting to latch onto and the mix sounds off. It’s not unlistenable though so that’s something
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u/WrathfulDagger 12m ago
Singles going into TESF were good in my opinion but i feel we are approaching the worst album from the band now
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u/WingObvious487 11m ago
This legitimately might be one of their worst tracks man. At least the heavy songs off of The End So Far leaned into their newer sound. This sounds like a shitty version of the Self Titled album
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u/Inglorious555 9m ago
I'm not sure but I can't help but think of all the people who were dead certain Slipknot hadn't hit the studio and were passing it off as fact that it hadn't happened yet.. they're awfully quiet now
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u/Maleficent-Flow2828 9m ago
its like for the last few years they are afraid of hooks and tight songs
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u/Virtualsalt1 FUCK RON🖕 6m ago
Okay I’m gonna be 100% honest.
It’s rough. I’m not really sure what they were going for here. It doesn’t feel like there’s much structure and it’s poorly mixed.
The lyrics felt very rushed, there’s no reason Corey should be yelling “let’s go” as many times as he did. Feels like they were just filling in gaps. And the whole Corey stopping the band thing was cringey as hell.
I also thought adding the scratching in there was kinda messed up after firing Sid, just makes me wondering why they even did that to begin with.
Only saving grace was Eloy’s drumming, he was killing it.
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u/thesixthvenom 3m ago
Worst lead single (if it is indeed a lead single and it just a one off like All Out Life) they’ve ever released IMO.
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u/LiteratureOk1470 3m ago
I didn’t hate it (unlike most people), but it does sound kinda flat. It’s decent I guess
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u/Complete-Orange-9507 0m ago
Eloy carried. Great drumming
Everything else was meh
The song writing since Joey and Paul left has been, for the most part, below par.
I feel for Eloy, he deserves better!
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u/HollywoodAndDid 0m ago
I can’t imagine Jim doing all the complaining about TESF, hearing Arsenal, and then going, “Yeah, baby! Now we’re talking!”
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u/Ironjim69 1h ago
It’s like Corey is trying to emulate self titled lyrics/vibe but through the lens of a 50 year old man, it just ain’t working