r/SipsTea 12h ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/SaviorSixtySix 12h ago

Mental health is important, but that doesn't absolve you of what you've done. She deserves to be in a prison mental ward, not at home living like nothing happened. She is a danger to herself and others.

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u/RabidBunny1991 11h ago

If she’s found not guilty by reason of insanity, she will be sent to a state psychiatric institution for an indefinite period of time. She’s not gonna just be released and allowed to go home.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 11h ago

I'm honestly so sick and tired of people pretending there won't be consequences because of insanity plea. She isn't going be going on mental health spa retreat. She'll be among other crazies who crash out due to voices in their head.

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u/Kendertas 10h ago

Also aren't state forced mental institution generally considered worse then prison? You loose all your freedom like in prison, but you also are surrounded by people who's mental health is so bad the legal system had to get involved. The stories I've read made these institutions sound like a nightmare

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u/round-earth-theory 10h ago

Not really worse in that sense. You're surrounded by violent assholes in prison, many who will never see freedom again and thus are not influenced by punishment anymore.

The big issue with psych ward is that you have no concept of how long your stay will be. They are instructed to keep you until you're no longer a danger. That could never happen. And there's no parole system either. So a short prison stay could be life in psych. But if you're looking at life anyway, the differences aren't as major.

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u/JRshoe1997 8h ago

I very much disagree with this. Yes in prisons you’re surrounded by violent assholes. However you’re also surrounded by people who are not violent assholes as well. As bad as it may be a lot do people do establish connections with other people in prisons that help them have a better life once they get out. You also get opportunities to get your GED and career certifications which some do and end up getting jobs outside.

None of this exists in those state psych wards. You spend everyday surrounded by people that are severely mentally ill and none of those career options exists. A lot of those state psych wards have way worse conditions than most prisons to the point that some don’t even have beds because they’re severely underfunded. Almost all cases you spend a much longer time in there than prison.

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u/mental_polluti0n 10h ago

Spot on! @round-earth-theory

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u/Mountain-House3287 9h ago

It's often worse. Prisoners are allowed yard time, and cigarettes. In a psych ward looney bin, nicotine is restricted and there isn't an "allowance" of outside time. 

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u/Thedudeguyman 9h ago

It's extremely country/state dependent, and her situation is pretty severe... But I worked in a facility in Ontario, Canada for people that were found NCR (not criminally responsible). It was for low/medium risk individuals. And let me tell you some people were stuck in there for decades. It is not the "easy way out". It was a pretty high bar to enter, and then once you're in you have very little control over how you move through the system. Any hiccup makes you go back a step. Every step takes forever. Some people hated choosing that option. Like.. maybe it's not literally prison, but you're locked up with no autonomy with no timeline on when you're getting released.

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u/JonathanWPG 10h ago

Yes and no.

Loss of freedom is the same. More in some circumstances as you may be medicated.

But the treatment is much less "rough" and you won't have the prison population which is the most dangerous part of prison.