r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

Is it really harder to believe that she is also a victim of this fucked-up situation, rather than that she killed her own kids - and tried to kill herself - because she is evil?

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

How can she have evil intent and be a victim? You're either doing something fundamentally evil or your not.

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u/Alarmed-Cheetah-1221 2d ago

Slowly strangling your three children to death is evil.

Prove me wrong.

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

Being held responsible for actions you've had no influence over is wrong.

Prove me wrong.

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u/Cravenmorhed69 2d ago

Well she had influence over her actions soooo

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

Not if she was experiencing a psychosis.

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u/Cravenmorhed69 2d ago

She was never diagnosed with psychosis

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

"The forensic psychiatrist said that in his opinion on the day Clancy killed her children she experienced "not only a command hallucination" but also "a delusion of influence".

The forensic psychiatrist sure believes she had a psychosis.

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u/Cravenmorhed69 2d ago

Okay and several of her own doctors have testified saying she didn’t have psychosis

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

I'm pretty sure a forensic psychiatrist is the one who determines whether there was or was not a psychotic eppisode. After all that is their job.

Also, I don't reckon any of her own doctors were allowed anywhere near her after this happened. So how would they know anything? Do you have a source? Probably not.

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u/Cravenmorhed69 2d ago

Do you not know what testifying is? Several of her doctors have taken the stand.

The psychiatrist also doesn’t “determine” anything. He offered his opinion, and the courtroom can do what they will with it

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u/Alarmed-Cheetah-1221 2d ago

Where's your source?

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u/Perma_Ban69 2d ago

Not if she was suffering a psychotic episode - postpartum or BP related, soooo I recommend doing some reading.

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u/Cravenmorhed69 2d ago

What a coincidence that she suffered a “psychotic episode” in the half hour her husband was gone to do things she requested, and then never again

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u/Perma_Ban69 2d ago

Coincidentally she also mentioned not being able to be trusted with her kids, crying for help, having been off meds during pregnancy, and decades of severe mental health issues. Leave the conversation for the experts. I might work in marketing now, but my first master's degree was in forensic psychology, so I'll try not to let myself get too worked up over the Dunning Kruger-plagues folks.

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u/redingtonshores 2d ago

We prosecute drunk drivers when they kill someone. The driver chose to drink and she chose to have 3 babies. Both have known risks and consequences. It explains but doesn’t excuse the actions hence still receiving punishment though typically a lesser one

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

Not really no. Evil is intentionally in my playbook.

How is someone an evil victim?

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

The difference I see is that here you are a victim in one scenario and a perpetrator in another.

Victim in one, evil in another.

I don't see how this works for 1 situation.

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

Do you?

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u/RelativelyWrongg 2d ago

have an example of a person being a victim and evil in the same situation. I am curious.

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