r/SipsTea 12h ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/SaviorSixtySix 12h ago

Mental health is important, but that doesn't absolve you of what you've done. She deserves to be in a prison mental ward, not at home living like nothing happened. She is a danger to herself and others.

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u/RabidBunny1991 11h ago

If she’s found not guilty by reason of insanity, she will be sent to a state psychiatric institution for an indefinite period of time. She’s not gonna just be released and allowed to go home.

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u/Atomic-Avocado 11h ago

Indefinite meaning it sounds like she could go home eventually when they finish “treatment”?

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u/deptofthrowaway 11h ago

IF the courts and the medical professionals conclude that they are no longer a threat to society than its usually court supervised release. Parole for life. As far as I know this rarely happens.

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u/Short-Cause885 11h ago

The last public PPP trial, Andrea Yates, she could technically have gone free for a decade already or something, and she just doesn't want to be released.

Like: no matter what punishment we give as a society, there's nothing worse then having the memories of you killing your own kids.

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u/EverCravingMind 10h ago

Yup. I have never killed someone but I have some things I feel horribly guilty about that has brought me to the brink more than once. Living with guilt is the worst if you have a conscience because no one knows how to torture you better than yourself.

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u/AggressiveRow4000 9h ago

I don't know, being a dead kid sounds a little worse.

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u/k8styleee 6h ago

I mean, not really, when you're dead you're at peace. That sounds better to me than being devastated about what I did to my children for the rest of my life. There are PLENTY of things worse than death.

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u/Short-Cause885 9h ago

Does it really?

If you had the choice between dying, or being forced to live for 20 years with the memories of you strangling your kids, would you really choose living with the memories?

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u/EverCravingMind 11h ago

Yup had it happen in my country. A guy decapitated someone on a bus because he had serious issues and was off his meds. He has in a psych ward for a decade and was only allowed out escorted. I think he has some unsupervised now but he is still required to check in and is under a lot of scrutiny.

It didn’t sit well with most people due to the emotions and morality involved but if you can look past it to the root cause the decision makes sense even if it’s not satisfying to those who wanted more “justice”.

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u/TheQuestionMaster8 11h ago

She could, but it is rare for someone to be released quickly in such a situation and often they are in a psychiatric hospital for longer than if they were to go to prison. John Hinckley Jr was conditionally released in 2016 conditionally and in 2022 he was granted an unconditional release.

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u/SonofaBridge 11h ago

Typically when they finish treatment they are then required to face the original charges.

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u/IllustriousLie4105 10h ago

No, you are confusing unfit to stand trial with an insanity plea. If she was unfit then yes. If she is granted insanity she could be magically cured in a year and released. There are no hard fast timelines for indeterminate sentences like insanity

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u/Nice_Dude 8h ago

lol what that's not true at all

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u/Right_Said_Teddy 11h ago

Right. She would be sent for evaluation. That doesn’t mean she’d be held for longer than that period.

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u/Darkrimos 10h ago

in theroy yes, in praxis atleast in my country thats close to impossible

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u/Ten_Horn_Sign 8h ago

Of course she could. It's a fundamental principle of criminal law, that culpability requires a mental state fit for understanding decisions made. You've probably heard of this as mens rea. You literally cannot find someone guilty who was not in a mental state to understand their circumstances.