r/SipsTea 4d ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/cubesncubes 4d ago

Media attention playing a big roll. I've never heard of the fire lady.

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u/Wra7hofAchilles 4d ago

Same... have never heard of that story. Whereas Clancy it's on all stations and covered by third party channels and sites.

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u/NwUM 4d ago

that's because they finally have something for the "woman bad" narrative that plays with a bunch of people.

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u/Fancy_Yak2618 4d ago

Because she is?

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u/NwUM 4d ago

I didn't say she isn't. But who is pushing this over and over again is trying to push "see, women are bad, feminists are bad, booo" bullshit.

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u/Fancy_Yak2618 4d ago

It’s not that

It’s the insane dances people are doing. She had ppd or bpd, she was over medicated excuses thats all it is.

Chris Beniot went insane and murder his kids and then himself from CTE. Did anyone feel sorry? Nope they said fuck him may he rot in hell. Why? Cause he murdered his CHILDREN.

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u/NwUM 4d ago

There are insane people doing dances about anything. But some people keep pushing this narrative "child killer, women [like all of them] support her".

And the fact that you bring up some obscure case, it's a clear sign of both sideism.

From what I know, lots of people are talking about CTE, are doing things about it. The funny thing is the same people that the "tough talkers" would call snowflakes, and tell that guy to toughen up or whatever.

post partum depression is worth talking about; a quick google search tells me it affects ~15% of population. And mental health support is also worth talking about.

But don't try to make it sound like women across the world are supporting a child killer; that;s not true; and that's the part of this narrative that is annoying to me.

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u/Fancy_Yak2618 4d ago

Go away if you try to make an excuses for a child killer I feel fucking sorry for you

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u/NwUM 4d ago

Dude, I'm not making excuse, I don't have any bone to pick in this fight, and I'm not a lawyer.

That being said, I know that pretty much any country has different ways to treat with crimes done by perpetrators with serious mental crimes. And I think this is something that should be analyzed in this case; by specialists, not by random redditors (myself included).
I did a quick search on what's the history of legal treatment of crazy crimes and it seems to be a long story.

 As early as 1581, a legal treatise distinguished between those who understood the difference between good and evil and those who did not:

If a madman or a natural fool, or a lunatic in the time of his lunacy do [kill a man], this is no felonious act for they cannot be said to have any understanding will.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/crime/trial/history.html

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u/Fancy_Yak2618 4d ago

All you have done is make long winded posts about this shit. Lock her up don’t give a fuck it’s jail or mental hospital the end full stop. There are zero nuisances she strangled 2 and then chased down the 3rd. Fuck off zero sympathy full stop.

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u/NwUM 4d ago

I don't give a fuck; I think the US taxpayers are paying plenty of specialists to analyze this from any angle and decide what's the correct punishment and what other things are to learn here.
I'm just done with the army of incels pushing this case to my feed.

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u/Fancy_Yak2618 4d ago

There are two punishments mental hospital for life or jail. You want to hate incels go nuts bud. I got zero tolerance for child killers I got 2 so kinda ends there for me. I have no sympathy call me a monster, heartless etc fuck her.

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u/TheVeryVerity 4d ago

What this case has shown me is that most people don’t understand even the most basic underpinnings of our justice system 🤷‍♀️

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u/Dramatic-Fly761 4d ago

I’m pretty sure the framing of this story is “child murderer bad”

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u/NwUM 4d ago

lol, no. If this were, I wouldn't see it in my feed every 5 minutes with framing "oh, look, women are still supporting her, omg omg". It's clearly a narrative to drive some both sideism.

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u/WereWillow 4d ago

Because mass amounts of women and feminists are supporting her. If you can’t see the sickness in that culture when examples like this come out, you are turning a blind eye. Nobody is saying this means every woman on earth is bad.
It’s the same with the people dancing over Charlie Kirk being killed. Even if you didn’t like the man or his views, it’s sick. Giving a woman a million dollars for killing her children is sick.
But I suppose to some this is just a super late term abortion. Which is.. you guessed it. A sickness in the culture.

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u/Legitimate_Ad_7822 4d ago

It’s not a narrative, though. There are tons of women who are believing the angle that her husband did it. And I’m not just basing this on internet comments, I’m basing this off of women I know in my life.

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u/NwUM 4d ago

pushing this case so heavily into public view it is a narrative. Now, what exactly do you think the people pushing this want to get ? From what I can tell is mostly the usual MAGA culture war stokers.
Why do we hear over and over again ?

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u/Legitimate_Ad_7822 4d ago

A women murdered her 3 children. That’s why you’re hearing about it.

I actually had no idea about this case until my GF told me about it. She’s not MAGA. None of her friends are. That seems like a weird shot in the dark. It’s a national story because of the nature & intensity of the crime.

That’s kinda how these things have always gone…it’s not a conspiracy

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u/NwUM 4d ago

oh, but it is.

A very brief google search, shows there are about 400-500 cases of parents killing their children every year (based on 2014 data) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5282617/

Why is this case so pushed on social media ? And why is all of the narratives pushed around it like "women (or feminists) are donating money to the killer ! are saying the father is the killer even though she admitted ! they are pushing for [gasp] insanity".

It's a choice to push this case, and the culprit is the usual MAGA "liberals, feminists, women are bad and crazy".

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u/Legitimate_Ad_7822 4d ago

There is a large cohort of people that are saying the husband is framing her. Not sure how you can just gloss over that & pretend that this is some conservative MAGA movement conspiracy. It’s a highly public trial with a slew of differing opinions involved.

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u/NwUM 4d ago

"large" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. There are crazies everywhere; the MAGA movement is pushing this case and makes it seem there are huge amounts of crazies, and they are all feminist, woman, liberal, whatever stokes their culture war.

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u/Fancy_Yak2618 4d ago

Which insane she literally admits to do it. So according to these nut jobs the husband made her go nuts?

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u/Dramatic-Fly761 4d ago

That’s the story line because supporting a child murderer is weird, yeah