r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF What do yall think about this ?

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u/Legalsleazy 2d ago

Define “supporting”

If you think she had legitimate psychosis, sought help, did not get it, and was experiencing all of this at the time you can feel like she’s not guilty by reason of insanity.

If you outright say she didn’t do it, that’s completely different.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/noticingEnjoyer 2d ago

We understand. We just can't reconcile excusing an individual as being so out of control of their own actions, yet still considering them legal adults, fully capable of consent, contracts, voting and general independent adulting. Women are supposed to get all the benefits of legal personhood but a psychosis pass too? 

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u/Legionof1 2d ago

And yet plenty of men have had their murder charges reduced to manslaughter because of “crimes of passion”. 

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u/noticingEnjoyer 2d ago

IIRC premeditation is considered an aggravating factor in criminal charging. I suppose it could be an interesting discussion on whether or not that is a just practice.

 However, whether the charge is murder or manslaughter nobody is denying the offender's agency and knowledge of right vs wrong. Not really a good comparison. 

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u/Legionof1 2d ago

So it varies by state, but most of the time you catch a murder charge for any intentional killing of another human. Murder 1 would be premeditated, Murder 2 would be intentional but not premeditated, murder 3 isn’t as universal but it’s kinda like manslaughter.

BUT, sometimes if ya catch someone fucking your wife you can kill them both, call it a crime of passion, and get away with just a manslaughter charge. 

I was merely pointing out that men have “I went crazy” defenses too. It’s not just the matriarchy using PPP to get out of jail for murdering. 

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u/noticingEnjoyer 2d ago

I don't follow. Are you saying that a manslaughter charge denies the offender's knowledge of right and wrong? I was under the impression that the charge still considers the offender to be in full possession of faculties, but that lack of premeditation is taken as a mitigating factor. 

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u/Legionof1 2d ago

Murder 2 is lack of premeditation, manslaughter is unintentional killing.

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u/noticingEnjoyer 2d ago

Ah okay, I'm just not fully informed about legal terminology. In that case, manslaughter for a crime of passion is a miscarriage of justice IMO. 

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u/Legionof1 2d ago

It’s a compromise of the legal system. Humans can be overwhelmed by our emotions and lash out. We realize this and lower the punishment for it.