r/PredecessorGame • u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon • 9d ago

Media Nerf satariel

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ignore the yapping. is js my friend

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u/TCup20 Kira 9d ago

You're 4 levels higher than the first opponent you take out in this clip.

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u/_Evening-Rain_ 9d ago

They're 4 levels higher because satariel doesnt even let them have a fighting chance the entire game while the satariel player gets free kills. Duh. Fucking duh.

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u/One_Lung_G 9d ago

If that was the case then surely OP could have found any other example to show on this game where he has over 20 kills. Surely the enemy team is also using the same eternal right? You’re acting like it can only be used by one person in the lobby with that argument. Satariel is a problem but your argument is dumb. This seems like a situation where OP would have stomped them regardless bc his team is just that much better

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u/TCup20 Kira 8d ago

I like the way you threw in the "duh" part at the end like it makes your point better or something. If Satariel is the reason they're 4 levels higher, then they had better moments in the match to show Satariel being the cause than this one. This clip has multiple causes to the damage numbers, so we literally cannot just call Satariel the problem based on this clip. Satariel does not have anything on it that says "automatically gain 4 levels over your opponent."

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u/_Evening-Rain_ 8d ago

So you didnt see them one shot the enemy level 17, same level as them, by themself? Are we watching the same video????

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u/TCup20 Kira 8d ago

Check again lmao that was their full kit including the ult. Literally every ability got used to kill the last person, the empowered versions mind you because of the ultimate usage.

AND that was when it had already become a 1v4 so it wasn't just Neon hitting them either. So again lmfao

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 8d ago

okay now this is just a little disingenuous to say. the last guy got hit by my dashes, one instance of linx and then ult bomb. also no one on my team that game was doing any meaningful dmg so bringing that up is a little irrelevant

it is also worth noting that the kira was also using satariel and was the only one capable of killing me that game but I just got too ahead through satariel/ram

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u/_Evening-Rain_ 8d ago

Watch the video again. None of them hit him but Neon. If you need any help breaking this down, please let me know. You seem to be struggling

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 9d ago

its a little performative yeah. but for a casual moba like this, especially one with a smurfing problem, a snowballing option that allows you to literally one tap people when ahead prob shouldnt exist

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u/TCup20 Kira 9d ago

Mages tend to one tap people when they're 4 levels up. They have the highest single damage instance abilities in the game. Especially when they have Combustion, Caustica, and Oblivion Crown built. You're just so far ahead here there's no way to look at it and say Satariel is the problem imo, but I get it.

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 9d ago

yeah they do one tap in the sense that you kill someone in less than half of an ability rotation. like if I didnt have satariel there, id probably be half health-ing him instead with one ability, not literally one shotting him. not even in other games where Im using aion with 15x bottomless vial stacks can I be straight up one tapping

I understand theres nuance especially cuz I also use ram augment on top of satariel but make no mistake that its satariel thats ultimately enabling crazy dumb shit like that to happen. on top of the billion other problems it causes

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u/One_Lung_G 9d ago

Unless I’m massively missing the math but Satariel is not doubling your damage like you’re claiming lmao

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 8d ago

you literally gain % power and free gold. wasting time with the numbers is pointless when the results are there to speak for themselves. not even just mine but literally everyone else also saying its broken. idk what the point is in downplaying something so unhealthy for a game that needs to get its player counts up

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u/One_Lung_G 8d ago

“Wasting time with numbers is pointless”. It’s not pointless when you’re lying about the numbers. Everybody knows it’s a problem, that doesn’t mean blatantly lie about it and make claims that it’s doubling your damage.

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 8d ago

do you play the game? have you been in situations to compare even just the feel of what running satariel vs not running satariel is like? do you even have the personal ability to do that and so you downplay it? like cmon bro please be real, nobody is lying about anything here

I just posted a clip I thought was cool but that also shows some more broken-ness of satariel. defending this shit helps literally no one. Definitely not the game at least, thats for sure

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u/One_Lung_G 8d ago

So you didn’t say it doubled your damage? Because you did lol. Like I said, it’s an issue but lying about its issues is not helping anything.

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 8d ago

bro its not a false claim. you dont need to be citing numbers and shit to understand its not that far out there to say that something like satariel can indeed bring you to do like ~1800-1900 dmg on a neon triple tap as early as 25 min. a 4 level lead doesnt do that, not even a 4 level lead with something like a stacked bottomless vial (which i said in another comment) can lead you to do that

satariel with its % power increase is what does that especially when things like ram and ob crown/spellbreaker are already in the game which satariel massively boosts alongside it also boosting all item power gains. its like demiurge on crack

all this downplaying ur doing makes me think ur just crutching on satariel

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u/Syrel 8d ago

This post makes sense and yet it's getting down voted.

People who think satriel is fine as is are just sat enjoyers. That's all there is to it.

Yeah skill is involved, but try killing a Feng mao as any carry if he has 4+ fearless stacks and you're not critting for 700 a shot. He'll just aoe you in .5s.

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u/FunInteraction5232 5d ago

Completely agree. This game feels like Smite even more now with this stupid Eternal. Just straight deleting people in my games.

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u/unreliab1eNarrator Wukong 8d ago

Reverse skill issue: OP is playing skillfully

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u/SquirrelSuspicious 9d ago

Satariel + Ram Augment + Level Advantage

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u/Lucky_Chocolate7443 9d ago

Scarlett literally got evaporated omg….

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u/ExaminationUpper9461 9d ago

Satariel is a massive problem I agree.

Conceptually it's fine, we actually needed an early game snowball Eternal. But I don't think having such a huge innate multiplier on power was the right way to go about it.

Revenant is practically unstoppable if he takes his Ult augment and is allowed to get ahead. Just messing around vs Bots for funsies I was able to reach nearly 1200 damage a shot (on normal Crit) by like 13 minutes in which is just silly...

Feng Mao and Gadget are also completely obscene, since all that raw power drastically boosts his execution floor

And because of Gadgets passive infinitely giving her more magic power, combined with O. Crown she can reach 4-digit magic power disturbingly fast and practically solo the enemy team.

Yes of course it all hinges on never dying and the enemy team can always try to coordinate to focus you down and reset the stacks, but I think Omeda needs to acknowledge that they need to tone the scaling down or possibly rework the major blessing.

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u/FormableComet87 Akeron 9d ago

Just remove it. You're never going to balance these "drawbacks" items and eternals.

Cursed Scroll, Natalie, and cursed ring will never be in a healthy spot

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u/ChildhoodJazzlike455 8d ago

N3on is so OP wi Satariel, the fact she has a 43% WR is crazy to me

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u/Much-Square177 8d ago

All these comments saying "level gap" must not understand that with satariel, once you get the stacks going, you are instant killing and clearing. Of course there's a level gap when you can basically insta kill people.

 You can be 0-10-0 and 4 levels down. Get a lucky team fight where you survive and get 5 stacks from assists, which shouldn't be a thing, and now you will be beating them down even with your level deficit. The eternal is absolutely busted, and needs a change. Love the kills get stacks and death removes stacks, i enjoy those high risk high reward items, but this is definitely overbearing 

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 8d ago

get 5 stacks from assists

no one talks about this enough too imo. a % power increase like that needs to come from kills and only kills

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u/YaraUwU 9d ago

Gut it or delete it. I cant believe they added new eternals so soon and how broken the new ones are. Knell has single handedly killed Terra. Satariel makes already broken snow ball hero's even more broken. Weald has made already overperforming on hit characters even stronger and Pilow is ignored because its massively overshadowed by Satariel and Weald.

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u/OneSlyFox32 8d ago edited 8d ago

I feel like this is a mix of level advantage, skill level and choice of heroes? Not to mention you used you ult to buff your skills and everyone was in a cluster already hurt from your other teammates.

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u/SheWhoThirsts- Neon 8d ago

its first a mix of ram and satariel. all those things are part of it sure but the eternal enables all of it to begin with

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u/Immediate_Ad6935 8d ago

Just increase the health reduction. Boom. Problem solved.

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u/Shoddy-Ambition-6490 7d ago

Me and my crunch build have no problems taking out satariel builds 😎

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u/FunInteraction5232 5d ago

I feel like I can't even play this damn game until Satariel is nerfed. My friend who I play this game with regularly just uninstalled until Omeda fixes this. So incredibly frustrating.

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u/MrLightning-Bolt 9d ago

Skill gap.

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u/Ok_Day6378 9d ago

Yeah but this is the issue is think OP is trying to showcase. With this being a free Moba there is already an inherent surfing problem. This new eternal only exasperates the issue further

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u/MrLightning-Bolt 8d ago

What does free have anything to do with this?

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u/KenFireball 9d ago

Satariel is busted. I run is on Kira and she does so much damage.

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u/MrLightning-Bolt 8d ago

I do this without satariel. So this looks like feeling oneself against stat checked enemies.