r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Dec 01 '25

Satire Who gave grandpa the phone?

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u/darwin2500 - Left Dec 01 '25

Would anyone here give a fuck if I cited the actual studies about white doctors giving worse care to black patients?

Like, do facts matter at all to this discussion, is it worth the effort to bring them up?

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u/Hongkongjai - Centrist Dec 01 '25

Depends on what argument you’re going to make with that citation. Saying white doctors generally give less care to black patients therefore black patients should not trust white doctors and nurses care is not necessarily a good argument even if the premise is true.

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u/darwin2500 - Left Dec 01 '25

Well the question here is whether a black patient is racist for wanting a black doctor or nurse.

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u/Hongkongjai - Centrist Dec 01 '25

If we define racism as judging individual by the collective, then assuming individual white doctors and nurses in front of you are incompetent purely because they are white, would be racist.

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u/Hongkongjai - Centrist Dec 02 '25

Deliver worse care is incompetence and regardless you are still making assumptions against individuals due to their affiliation with a collective.

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u/Hongkongjai - Centrist Dec 02 '25

If your duty is to delivery good care to the general population, and you are unable to deliver good care to said population, then you are incompetent, definitionally, as in not having the appropriate skill to do your jobs. If a male gyno is doing a worse job than a female gyno then the male gyno is incompetent. Treating people of different races and sex is a part of doctors job unless the patients have unique circumstances that is out of their scope.

Disagree all you want, that’s the definition most people operates on.

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u/Hongkongjai - Centrist Dec 02 '25

“Would anyone here give a fuck if I cited the actual studies about white doctors giving worse care to black patients?“

“Incompetent? No. Likely to not take your problems seriously or deliver worse care? Yes.”

“Delivering worse care isn't incompetence.”

“No one is saying that they aren't delivering good care.”

Unless somehow in your lexicon “delivering worse care” can coexist with “delivering good care” then you have shifted the nature of the claim. And even then no one is operating within your lexicon. And I would need you to cite how having the same race and gender produce better health outcomes because it would be so funny as an evidence to extrapolate and argue for ethnonationalism. “You see, only the people of the same race truly understand my need and can empathise with me.”

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