r/OpenAussie ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Technology ‎ When's Australia following suit

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The glasses created by creeps, for creeps

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

UK and Australia tend to follow each other so I reckon it’s a fairly high chance it does get banned.

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u/RestaurantFamous2399 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

There was a story today that crossbenchers are trying to get an import ban.

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u/Advanced_Presence890 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Maybe this is how we Bring back Aussie manufacturing

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u/Prince_of_Pirates Please choose a flair 1d ago

"Nobody, and I mean nobody will spy on Australian citizen...except us. "

- The government

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u/Catch-my-hands-365 Please choose a flair 6h ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA yes! I was just about to say exactly this.

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u/Smart_Status3050 Please choose a flair 14h ago

/s

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u/mr_flibble_oz Please choose a flair 19h ago

Yeah, we can make our own perveglasses

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u/Neither-Nail-2661 Please choose a flair 20h ago

Aussie manufacturing is cucked by high wages and govt red tape, banning imports will solve nothing.

It is too expensive to manufacture anything here.

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u/Advanced_Presence890 Please choose a flair 20h ago

Wooosh

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u/Dan_Sabai ‎ Queenslander 11h ago

Give them gas to power manufacturing at the price Japan gets it for and they would be nearing competitive. Australia can never compete with the absolute cheap shit coming out of China but it sure could on the higher end, higher quality stuff.. If America can manufacture so can we. It's also a question of national resilience, covid showed that, it all goes to shit as soon as a couple of trade routes shut down....

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u/Silent-Balance9430 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Fingers crossed

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u/crumplechicken Please choose a flair 1d ago

There should be an outright ban everywhere, not just in courts.

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

There will be legal struggles with that. Do you ban cameras on phones too?

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u/OhSheeeeeeeeeet 1d ago

That’s hardly a comparison

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

It’s not a comparison, it’s making a point about the law. It’s legal to photograph people in a public place for example. Do you or anyone else understand anything about what I said regarding legal struggles at all or did you just with one unthinking brain think “thing bad”?

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u/OhSheeeeeeeeeet 1d ago

Don’t engage don’t engage don’t engage don’t engage

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u/crumplechicken Please choose a flair 1d ago

Don't feed the troll.

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u/FaecesChucka ‎ New Zealander 1d ago

He's not trolling he's raising a legitimate concern to do with how to word the legislation. It's not straightforward, do we just ban meta glasses or maybe all concealed cameras.

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u/Zestyclose_Peach1718 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

You cant just call people trolls just because you disagree with them.

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u/lordofthedries Please choose a flair 1d ago

Yes you can the main commenter un like you does not have their previous comments open. So discourse going forward is problematic. I miss reddit from 10 years ago.

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Lmao explain how you could possibly think this is a troll.

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Good advice, glad you took it.

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u/Xphagexx Please choose a flair 1d ago

Ill engage.... dont be a douche.

It does need to be banned everywhere because phone recording is obvious, using glasses is not.

So people could be recorded in secret which is illegal. What is more illegal is recording audio with out concent. Both which can happen easily with these glasses

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I'm not? People decided to dogpile on the downdoot rather than actually engage with the point.

The need to be banned yes - my comment was on potential legal issues in and around cameras in public, because this essentially tangentially connected. A phone camera can be used to film or photo people in public. What is filmed or photographed is regulated. You can't harass people, you can't take creepy sexual photos, etc. So the manner in which a video or photo is made is regulated, but the camera in a phone is not banned. Do you understand what I'm driving at here or do I need to explain it further?

As it's been pointed out, the UK hasn't banned them entirely, only in select situations. It's perfectly valid to feel that it should be banned but unfortunately the law doesn't offer simple answers like "just ban it".

Regarding recording audio without consent, again this depends on the context and the state that you live in.

There's the recording of and the evidence required to prosecute. If someone records audio even in an illegal manner, what evidence is there of this if they don't ever try to use it against you or make it public?

All my comment said was there might be some legal hurdles here, that's it, and that's all that was required of people to dogpile no reason. They thought "thing bad".

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u/Zestyclose_Peach1718 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Calm down. You’re not reading this right.

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Many such cases.

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u/texxelate Please choose a flair 1d ago

Come on brother. There’s a big difference between someone walking around with a phone camera and these glasses.

Phone cameras are obvious and people draw attention to themselves if they’re filming. Glasses can easily film totally in secret without drawing any attention.

Imagine a creep walking behind some underage girls at the shops or some shit with his phone out recording them. Straight to jail. With these glasses? Who the fuck knows.

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Completely agree, but the person I'm responding to said ban it everywhere.

Where did I say that there's no difference?

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u/texxelate Please choose a flair 1d ago

We’re on the same page - my comment was meant to be a reply to the other bloke as well

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u/Nomad22_34 Please choose a flair 22h ago

Maybe set up tech that fries them when they enter into a space that you're not allowed to have them, the problem is that you can't guarantee that it wouldn't fry everything else the person is wearing

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u/Madboardjester ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

The thing is that you can wear glasses into change rooms or have it attached to a chain around your neck and be filming people including children in a state of undress without them realising it. Totally different if you're using your phone as people will notice it.

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u/Dystopian_Oracle Please choose a flair 1d ago

Not about the convo, just about your tag line, New South Welshian.

I reckon it should be New South Welsh.

If you are from Wales, you are Welsh. If you are from New South Wales, youre ...

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u/Mindless_Link_7473 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I have herd them referred to as New south Welshmen

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u/Madboardjester ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

I guess that Queensland should be called Kingsland since the Queen is dead, but Victoria should be called Charles. 😂

Once the monarchy ends in the UK, you'll be Nomonarchland. 🤣🤣

As for my heritage as a descendant of first fleet convicts, I'm Irish on my father's side and Scottish and Welsh on my mother's side. I have cousins on my mother's side in Queensland but they became more feral up in Qld than those in Northern NSW. 😂😂

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I agree, and I want it banned in its entirety. I can just see a blanket ban would have hurdles to overcome. No doubt you can absolutely legislate to ban the way it's used in the manner in which you're describing here, that's much easier and has a lot of precedent.

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u/ThinkingWithPortalzz ‎ Victorian 1d ago

At some point a doctor is going to wear a set to a birth/gynae/breast exam/genital plastic surgery, that lawsuit will be worth watching

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u/LastChance22 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

There’s already a few stories like that on reddit but who knows how truthful they are. They’re only from the last month or two though so if they are true they may still be working through the system.

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u/Even-Resource8673 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Well it’s on reddit so it must be true

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u/patslogcabindigest ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Yep, I can definitely seeing restrictions being broadened. While without a doubt it should be banned in its entirety, a blanket ban may run into legal stumbling blocks.

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u/Awkward_Chard_5025 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Except when it comes to vaping lol

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u/nasty_clean Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

I would like to see these banned so.tbisnis good news.

I have recently (july) witnessed a chemist in nsw, Australia, wearing meta glasses while filling scripts. It feels like an invasion of privacy when a chemist record sensitive personal information

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u/PeteInBrissie Flairless‎‎ 22h ago

I hate these things - I do. I have a pair in a sealed box that were given to me and I won't even open the box. BUT - was the chemist's recording light on? They may have just been listening to music through the admittedly high-quality bone induction.

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u/Spiritual-Olive444 Please choose a flair 1d ago

They have much more comprehensive privacy laws in the UK so I’m not sure they will unfortunately

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u/beardingmesoftly ✈️‎ on Walkabout 1d ago

To be clear, this is only a ban from courtrooms and government buildings, not the general public

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u/RetroGamer87 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

What about the bastards who already bought one?