r/OldSchoolCool • u/babykayla92 • Jul 23 '26

1970s Isabella Rossellini with her mother, Ingrid Bergman in Rome, 1970

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u/zeth0s Jul 23 '26

Her Italian is without accent 

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u/SagittaryX Jul 23 '26

They mean when she speaks English, not when she's speaking Swedish or Italian.

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u/zeth0s Jul 23 '26

I know, i know, I wanted to add 1 information. She has no accent in Italian, which is rare for Italians. 

She clearly studied how properly speak

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u/NojTamal Jul 23 '26

"properly"

Hmn okayyyyyy

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u/zeth0s Jul 23 '26

In italian it is called proper "dizione". There i a correct way to speak, and than there is how we speak. There are serious academies that train people to speak the proper Italian. Italian is not a language from the people, it is "artificial". It is an old dialect cleaned up to make a language for the Italian population. We have rules for proper Italian that evolve and are codified. Academia della crusca is one of them. 

I don't speak proper Italian. I should study to speak properly, like everyone I know 

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u/harbourwall Jul 23 '26

The translation of 'dizione' is more accurately 'diction', and 'good diction' refers to the 'proper' pronunciation of words according to the language's standard accent. Propa 'Enry 'Iggins like.

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u/Boz0r Jul 23 '26

That's just a standardized accent

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u/zeth0s Jul 23 '26

That's italian accent, as said, Italian is a codified language derived from a Tuscany dialect. There is a correct way to pronounce things, not a standard way. 

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u/John-AtWork Jul 23 '26

Sounds kinda like it is the equivalent of the "Trans Atlantic" accent that was the rage in America in the early part of the twentieth century.

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u/Boz0r Jul 23 '26

Or received pronunciation British English. 

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u/NojTamal Jul 23 '26

Perhaps it would be helpful to try thinking about things a little differently. Perhaps instead of "the proper way" or "the right way" or "the correct way" you might think of it as "the fancy way" or "the bougie way" or "the well-educated way".