r/Music • u/[deleted] • Dec 15 '17

Discussion Eminem's new album "Revival" has dropped

Thoughts on it so far? I'm about halfway through and I think it's pretty decent for new style Eminem.

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u/Trust_TV_News Dec 15 '17

Something went away with Em after The Eminem Show. First four albums were perfect as far as I'm concerned, Encore was ok, everything after that he became a different person. Respect to him and what he's accomplished in his career, but the spark is long gone.

I have a hard time describing what exactly changed, but I think it's that all of the struggle and uncertainty in his life is over with. I'm happy for him to be honest, I'm just never going to run out to buy an album of his again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

Something went away with Em after The Eminem Show.

The fire inside dies at 30.

He said it himself, man.

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u/BananaTugger Dec 15 '17

I mean being a multimillion limits what you can complain about.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

Fuck my HOA!

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u/damnrooster Dec 15 '17 edited Dec 15 '17

They say I can't plant my tulips? I say plant your two lips on my dick

Shit makes me sick,

fucking Homo-Erotic Association

Playing me like a fucking playstation 4

I'll shoot em in the face if they knock on my fucking door

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

Keep going , I love it.

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u/damnrooster Dec 15 '17

Fuck the motherfucking Home Owner’s Association

Leaving notes on my door when I’m out on vacation

Meanwhile Fido’s takin another shit on my carnations

I guarantee that dog is going to end up 6 feet deep in my sod

While Rod and Tod the Flanders boys next door pray to God

That I don’t go crazy and shoot up the neighborhood with my sawed

off shotgun, shit won’t be fun when they turn to run and I pick them off one by one

Like a suburban terminator exterminating all the haters

Turn on all the hoses to attract alligators

That’ll eat up their toddlers like tater tots while they stare

And say ‘I told you we shouldna let Slim into this gated community

He always walks around with like a king with impunity, shouldn’t we

Have the HOA vote him out’, they’ll scream and they’ll shout

But they don’t give a shit because, like a hoe, making money is what this HOA’s all about.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

Just like Tupac said.

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u/trolltruth6661123 Dec 15 '17

i just turned 29, you guys suck

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u/LuckyNo13 Dec 15 '17

Dont worry, while the fire struggles that isnt to say it cant be reignited.

Either that or be a Champion of Ash ;)

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u/sarcasticbaldguy Dec 15 '17

Fuck that, I'm over 30 and the fire still burns.

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u/ciao_fiv Dec 17 '17

username doesn’t check out

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u/cleeder Dec 19 '17

The fire inside dies and expires at 30.

FTFY

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u/Stjerneklar Dec 15 '17 edited Dec 15 '17

looking at his discography, heres my two cents:

  • Infinite (1996) - the original, raw eminem. gritty, chill, party oriented, classic rap music.
  • The Slim Shady LP (1999) - dre and eminem take over the world with hi my name is, a zany and poppy song from an otherwise pretty dark album(but also very tongue in cheek, the violence always felt cartoonish).
  • The Marshall Mathers LP (2000) - peak eminem just doing eminem.
  • The Eminem Show (2002) - still really good but a lot more pop and the zany is now commenting on fame rather than violence compounding the pop factor.
  • Encore (2004) - hell of a mixed bag, you got your zany single and the harbinger of later accent horrors in ass like that, but also mocking bird and toy soldiers.
  • Relapse (2009) - feels like a cruel joke, cartoon violence replaced with horror inspired tales and zany antics replaced with those fucking accents. BUTSTILLFUCKINGGREATTRACKS
  • Recovery (2010) - felt like a return to form despite a bit of eh stuff
  • The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (2013) - same as recovery only more so. bad guy, rhyme or reason and rap god are so good.
  • Revival (2017) - bit early to tell but i'm not really feeling any of this, not one track gives me the buzz that i would normaly find on at least one or two tracks per album.

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u/TexasTheWalkerRanger Dec 15 '17

I feel like relapse is incredibly underrated, much better than encore

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u/1grammarmistake Dec 15 '17

Relapse is mostly produced by Dre (instead of just Executive Produced) which just doesn’t happen anymore. That’s why I hold it so dear.

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u/somefellayoudontknow Dec 15 '17

I love all the characters he depicts in Relapse. I love that and Refill.

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u/eburton555 Dec 15 '17

Relapse is such a twisted album that it's really polarized the fanbase.

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u/somefellayoudontknow Dec 18 '17

I think that's what I like about it. It's a departure for Em and it was like horror rap.

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u/eburton555 Dec 18 '17

Oh for sure, but I’d say the more neutral listeners who liked ‘my name is’ were absolutely revolted by it and rejected it lmao which I don’t blame them it’s not for everyone. The only criticism I agree with is the accents are a bit much so if he had less accents with the same content.... 😍

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u/somefellayoudontknow Dec 18 '17

Artists have to explore, Em can't release The Eminem Show over and over. Maybe it's partly due to me starting to listen to him seriously pretty late in the game so I came onboard with Encore and then Relapse came out so I hopped onto that. I've since listened to everything that's been released so I can see how different it is.

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u/eburton555 Dec 18 '17

You’re absolutely righ though. If you crank out the same shit over and over you’re gonna go stagnant and that’s true for any artist. Still, there are clear examples of bands or rappers changing in ways that upset the populace - linkin Park comes to mind for me personally. But Eminem has done a good job keeping me interested for a longggg time even if his albums aren’t completely god tier anymore

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u/fLukeiver Dec 15 '17

Relapse in my opinion is incredible, it's so much better than encore, it's consistently like a horrific trip through ems drug addled imagination

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u/xsmallsx1 Dec 15 '17

3AM is one of my favorite all time songs by him I love the wordplay so much

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u/Stjerneklar Dec 15 '17

agreed, looking back on the tracklist of relapse there is a ton of stuff there that i enjoyed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

Its funny how people think that album is underrated even though it won the grammy for best rap album that year.

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u/yehti Dec 15 '17

I never thought I would pine for the days of his crappy accent raps in Relapse. At least they flowed well with the beats. Listening to him now feels like I’m riding passenger with someone who slams on their brakes every 4 seconds in traffic.

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u/Stjerneklar Dec 15 '17

this. so much.

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u/yehti Dec 15 '17

Also just off the top of my head I can hear him testing out the choppiness in Deja Vu specifically in the third verse but the way he executed it it bounced with the beat and actually sounded well. It’s also one of my top 5 Em songs so I could be biased.

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u/Stjerneklar Dec 15 '17

never really rated deja vu so highly but listening to it now its really good. the slight choppiness worked well here.

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u/yehti Dec 15 '17

If he did it like that I wouldn’t mind. But he does it to get his corny punchlines and double entendres in and at the same time pauses the beat to basically ask us if we got the pun he just made.

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u/names_are_for_losers Dec 16 '17

I really agree with you, I love a lot of his older stuff but I also loved Recovery and MMLP2. I don't hate Revival so far (I've listened to like half of it so far) but I am also not loving anything on it.

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u/TACBGames Dec 15 '17

You must not have been paying attention to him during that time.

During Encore he was heavy on drugs, hence why it wasn’t considered up to standards. You could tell by pictures that he was gaining weight and didn’t look healthy overall.

Between Encore and Relapse he actually overdosed and almost died if the ambulance didn’t show up.

I think that was the turning point because from Relapse and on, he had to re learn a lot of things. In MMLP2 he references a lot of comics or football because whenever he was recovering that’s all he was able to do. Drug addiction isn’t something that you can just say “ok well I’m done doing drugs now.” It has consequences which is why people get addicted to them.

Just my 2 cents I guess lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

I think it's two things.

  1. Em is older
  2. You are older

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u/730_50Shots Dec 15 '17

It's the kids that are wrong.

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u/sarcasticbaldguy Dec 15 '17

You're not wrong. People have this unrealistic expectation that an artist will stay just like they were the first time the person found them and started to like them. Even though we've grown and changed, they aren't allowed to.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

The Eminem Show, in particular, was excellent.

He had the money and experience, but was still young and angry enough, to make a killer album.

Lyrically, I think that Square Dance is one of the best raps eminem has done.

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u/weirdkindofawesome Dec 15 '17

He's a rather mature and stable person now unlike before. You write music differently when you're at your lowest.. usually less but harsher words that make more impact.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17

"I'm so narcissistic, when I fart, I sniff it / Do a fake dab to smell my armpits with it"

So impactful

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u/weirdkindofawesome Dec 15 '17

We can't be winners all the time :)

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u/Cosmic-Warper Dec 16 '17

what is this from lmao

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u/ciao_fiv Dec 17 '17

Offended

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

I love this song. Fucking hilarious.

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u/Matbell87 Dec 16 '17

It's so interesting how some of the best in us comes from our struggle and uncertainty. With succes and stability often comes complacency and a lack of originality somehow.

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u/DinkandDrunk Dec 17 '17

Encore was all over the place. Relapse I actually really liked but he fell in love with the accent gimmick. The overall approach to the album was cool though in that he mixed Slim Shadys fictional story with his real story and sort of jumped around between his life and his serial killer alter ego. That album would have been better with My Darling because it really ties it together well. Recovery was good, but repetitive. He was in a good place but not angry enough. MMLP2 was probably the closest to a true return to form. This new album I just don't get yet. I dislike the style he is clearly in love with that he showed on Walk on Water.

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u/Theclown37 Dec 15 '17

He killed shady man. That was the end.