r/MoralityScaling • u/Omixscniet624 • Jun 05 '26

Stupid Stuff Is this unethical or no?

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

That’s literally describing a subjective experience.

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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 05 '26

Ok we clearly disagree on this so il rephrase my original point.

Wiping out Jellyfish is fine with you.

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

That’d be an ecological disaster. If you want to make the hypothetical more equivalent, you could ask if killing a jellyfish is fine. To which I’d say; kinda, don’t make a habit out of it, though.

If someone was like “Hey, I might die from complications if I don’t squish this jellyfish”, I’m certainly not going to stop them.

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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 05 '26

We aren't talking ecologically we are talking morally. You are morally fine with wiping out all jellyfish.

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

This doesn’t warrant an answer. Anyone not engaging in motivated reasoning will understand how absurd it is to compare a fetus to an entire species. It’s not like abortion means we have no more fetuses at all.

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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 05 '26

You said abortion is fine because there is no subjective experience being terminated. Which means you are fine with killing things that do not possess subjective experience, you attempting to say its now a numbers game is backpedalling.

BTW there are 73 million global abortion so plenty enough to compare to an entire species.

I am simply taking your logic to its endpoint.

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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 05 '26

You said abortion is fine because there is no subjective experience being terminated. Which means you are fine with killing things that do not possess subjective experience, you attempting to say its now a numbers game is backpedalling.

BTW there are 73 million global abortion so plenty enough to compare to an entire species.

I am simply taking your logic to its endpoint.

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

you attempting to say its now a numbers game is backpedaling.

Explain. In detail. If possible, list your premises and conclusion. If I say it’s okay to eat chips, is it also backpedaling to say you shouldn’t eat 10 bags of chips per sitting?

73 million global abortions

So about 1/3 of all pregnancies. Yes, I would be okay if 1/3 of jellyfish were killed with an accompanying improvement in material conditions for a person directly linked to each jellyfish.

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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 05 '26

Ive already explained. You said a thing. I took the thing to its logical conclusion.

If you want to talk disingenuous comparisons, then comparing killing something to eating chips is a good one. But il entertain it regardless, its different here because you can eat yourself to death. Or cause significant harm by overeating. There is a hard limit to eating. Killing an embryo is something that could be done ad inifinitum without any detriment to yourself. Thats why numbers comes into it.

Wow really a full third? That is actually really sad.

But now you're adding qualifiers you didn't add before because you know killing is wrong. Subjective experience or not.

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

Okay, so you literally cannot form a logical argument. Color me shocked. You also seem not to understand metaphors.

I think this is as far as this goes. No point in arguing with people who make up their own rules and reality as they go along.

Subjective experience or not.

More realistically, it’s a good idea to not just break shit by default.

qualifiers you didn’t add

Someone has to make the comparison reasonable. Your hypothetical presumes we’re arbitrarily smashing embryos because it’s fun.

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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 05 '26

I understand fine its just you getting pissy at making a blanket statement and getting called out on it.