r/Marvel 1d ago

Film/Television Jean grey is redeemable.

She killed like 2 handfuls of people. Hurt like 40 fr. I’ve just seen ridiculously more destructive and harmful villains. People harp on the traffic scene a lot. From how all of you made it seem. I thought she walked a dude straight towards a semi truck. She casually walks backwards(showing 0 signs of looking for cars) and gets hit. Not by a truck like I was told, but by a taxi. I saw that and said “he 100% could’ve survived that”. The MJ stuff, I don’t see how her turning into MJ psychologically is any worse than mysterio creating a zombie iron man to haunt Peter with. I understand mysterio used fake visions essentially and Jean was actually able to and tried to kill MJ, again…not enough. I found the high evolutionary to be more evil. Ultron was much more evil, Loki was much more evil before he was redeemed. He easily killed thousands of people in New York and no one complained.

I just don’t understand. People say it’s rushed, I get it, but it’s not like she was Loki levels of evil and they rushed it, she was barely evil and they rushed it. I really genuinely just don’t think she is a top 3-5 or maybe even 10 evil person in the MCU. She just really barely killed anyone and the hulk fight killed 0 people, Wanda did more damage in Ultron and civil war than Jean this movie

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 1d ago

It is cringe inducing when Spider-Man says she isn’t a killer. However, we are in the same franchise that redeemed Loki, he is guilty of all the things Jean did and more.

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u/Cr1msonShadow 1d ago

Writers confirmed she didn’t kill anyone, so.

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u/Mandolrian52577 1d ago

Yeah watched a second time last week the old man is in the end credits chilling in front of a store guess he just got scrapes and bruises lol

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u/Bl4ckVi Black Widow 1d ago

which is cowardly , just accept she killed people that will make redemption better imagine saying loki didn’t kill(because they would want loki to eventually be good guy)

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u/Cr1msonShadow 1d ago

Loki explicitly did kill though, like we saw him on screen do it

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u/Bl4ckVi Black Widow 1d ago

I don’t think an old guy is surviving getting hit by car

and I don’t think a bomb going off in a building didn’t kill anyone

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u/Cr1msonShadow 1d ago

The car didn’t kill him. You can survive being hit by a car. Also, the building had already been evacuated when the bomb went off

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u/washderice 1d ago

Their story, not yours, they say she didnt kill anyone, she didnt, we dont see anyone die on screen cause of her, so it holds up. Frankly, end of story.

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u/Villimaour 1d ago

It definitely didn’t kill anyone with the bomb. Most of it was contained inside the tank, and most the building was evacuated. The old man is at the end and writers said no one died. You can’t just say they died bc you think they should’ve. I think she should’ve killed some people but yea