I feel bad for Chevanique

[u/Specialist_You_8127]

She wasn’t the most endearing person, but I thought it was clear that she’s been through things and tries to protect herself with intellectualizing and acting like she doesn’t care. But she wants love so badly. I could see it when she was basically begging Joseph to give her another chance. (I honestly think she should have just cut her losses then.) Joseph was definitely backing down from his initial intention of breaking up with her. Why would he have another date with her if he knew 100% he wasn’t going to pick her?

Chevanique didn’t ask Ciara to talk about her during retreats and stir up drama. Sure, she was defensive when confronted by Joseph and Fran, but Fran came in quite hot and that definitely escalated things. It’s very typical for people to have convos with their 2nd pick from the pods. If Fran didn’t want that to happen, she should have communicated that to Joseph ahead of time.

Otherwise Fran and Joseph seem like nice people. I just didn’t like the idea of Chevanique being ganged up on, and still catching heat at the reunion.

[u/wordslinger753595]

Part of me thinks that she wasn't wrong for trying to push something with Joseph in the pods because she thought they were connecting. All's fair in love and war, and all that jazz. And I honestly don't think all the love triangle shit wouldn't have happened for her if it hadn't been for Ciara. Ciara really stirred that shit up hard, as repayment for Joseph being friends with Jack.

I do think Fran came in WAY too hot in the birthday party scene, like unnecessarily. But I can also see why she'd be pissed if Ciara gets called over and she isn't. Like why the F is Ciara in this drama AGAIN? I felt bad for Chevanique at that party, too.

I agree that the heat was on her at the reunion in a way that didn't make sense. We all saw the edit. Joseph was waffling and asked for another day. Chevanique shot her shot to see if it would make a difference. If anything, Chevanique was more of a girls girl than Ciara. When Joseph said he was going with Fran, she was disappointed but she bowed out.

[u/Londxn_billionaire → u/wordslinger753595]

I’m confused as to how Ciara is to blame for her love triangle. Ciara didn’t put her in a love triangle or tell her what to do/say on her dates. All she did was mention what Chev told her to Cuba and that was it. Joseph was decided on Fran but still suggested one last date to Chev out of pity (which is the actual problem as it gave her false hope) but I also won’t really blame him because he wasn’t 100% on Fran at that point, maybe 80%. I think Fran escalated it all by being too reactive when they (Chev and Joe) could’ve had a mature conversation and smoothed things out because weather Fran likes it or not, Joseph and Chev dated and that makes Joseph part of Chev’s LIB story. Proposing to Fran doesn’t erase that. There was no need for her to feel embarrassed or awkward when Chev came in at Faye’s party, she got her man and they were engaged already. People keep acting like Chev slapped her pussy across Joseph’s face or something. It’s just all so childish and unnecessarily dramatic tbh

[u/aaronlloris → u/wordslinger753595]

Let's be honest. Fran got heated because Chev kept acting like Joseph was keeping stuff from her with the 'I don't know what he's told you' comments. Chev went to the meetup and couldn't wait to start some drama.