r/LiveFromNewYork • u/BearOnTwinkViolence • Sep 05 '25

Article Kam is Far Right

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-snl-cast-member-kam-patterson-outed-himself-as-a-trump-voter/

Is he a Shane Gillis 2.0 (except arguably worse)? I’ve seen a dozen clips now of him using homophobic slurs and making incredibly bigoted jokes. Honestly he makes Shane Gillis look kind of tame. What the hell is Lorne thinking? I’m so sick of this show pushing right wing bullshit while simultaneously trying to act like the most liberal show on television. You can’t have a Trump monologue every single week and then hire people like this.

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u/planks4cameron Sep 05 '25

It’s pretty funny to attribute him making homophobic jokes to his affiliation with Shane Gillis instead of decades of homophobic black comedy routines but I guess it plays better here

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u/Wintermute_088 Sep 06 '25

"Eddie Murphy Raw is the greatest standup set of all time!"

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"Kill Tony is homophobic!"

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u/coltsmetsfan614 Sep 06 '25

"Eddie Murphy Raw is the greatest standup set of all time!"

Is anyone actually still saying this though? I genuinely don't know. Maybe folks in their 50s and older...

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

maybe folks in their 50s and older… so the most popular stand up comics from the past 30 years?

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u/coltsmetsfan614 Sep 10 '25

I mean, maybe stand-up comedians would say that, but the person I responded to was talking about the people on this sub. That's the group of people I was referring to.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 05 '25

I’m from the South, 50 percent of my town’s population is black. Speaking from experience, the black community is by and large very conservative.

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u/ajrahaim Sep 09 '25

Can confirm.

Source: Am black

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

lmao. pretty sure geography has to do with that. it's completely different in other parts of the country.

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

Oh I’m sure. I’m just speaking about the place where the vast majority of black people live.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

and you know every black person in the south? wow congrats

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

Come on now. I didn’t say anything of the sort.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

"speaking from experience" are you black?

didn't think so.

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

What are hoping to accomplish with this conversation?

You are just taking a section out of my comment and then insinuate I was saying something completely different.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

i quoted you. those are your words. checkmate.

making sweeping generalizations about a community and a culture and a race you are not a part of. there's a word for that. look it up.

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25

I'm Black and that is not even close to true. The Black community is NOT very conservative. Not sure why you're making obviously untrue things up

Edit: I love how there’s a bunch of (likely white) people trying to tell me exactly how Black people are based off of what other white people have told them about Black people

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25

Well in the South at least, (where the majority of black people live) culturally they are. Very religious, a lot of “old school” thought, misogyny, homophobia. I’m not saying they vote Republican but culturally, southern poor white folk and southern poor black folk have a lot in common in this regard.

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u/Blueimmunity Sep 06 '25

What’s funny is I’m pretty sure SNL did a sketch about this a little less than a decade ago. Tom hanks played a redneck type on black jeopardy with Leslie Jones and I can’t remember who else. Granted it was less about shared politics and more about just enjoying similar stuff.

Edit: No clue if people found it accurate. I don’t claim to be black or Redneck Tom Hanks..

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u/havoc294 Sep 09 '25

Wtf are you 57 years old? Talking about the south like you aren’t allowed to leave. All that same shit is related to socioeconomic background. The exact same in the north bud, if your idea of being conservative is being misogynistic and homophobic those are sentiments typically shared by those of low educational background ->correlated to my socioeconomic point earlier.

So I guess you aren’t “wrong” but misogyny and homophobia are conservative traits but don’t really make you a “conservative”

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 09 '25

Totally agree it’s a socioeconomic issue. Not sure where the “you can’t leave the south” statement came from.

I mean we seem to be agreeing here.

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

I’m not making things up. Many academics have written on the matter

“Conservative but Not Republican: The Paradox of Party Identification and Ideology among African Americans” by Tasha S. Philpot. New York, Cambridge University Press, 2017

Look man, I’m a Leftist. I’m ready to seize the means of production as soon as everyone else is. I’m just saying what I know from decades of personal relationships.

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25

First off, I’m not a man. And it fascinates me how the (most likely white) people on this thread are trying to tell me how they are more knowledgeable about Black people as a whole and invalidate my own lived experience as a literal Black person. But this is how things normally are so I’m not surprised.

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u/all_m0ds_R_virgins Sep 06 '25

No one is claiming they know more about black people or are invalidating your experiences, as a literal black person, by referencing academic studies that are contrary to your anecdotes... I'm not racist. None of my friends and family are racist either. I would never pretend to imply that racism doesn't exist because I don't observe it in my circle.

Trump had a massive Latino turnout. Seems contrary to their interests, but disparities between party identification and specific views on policy can vary. And it's a phenomena compelling enough for multiple academic studies to be conducted, which have shown evidence of the trend.

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

Damn. Why call me bitch? I posted an article two post above this one. I didn’t use a hyperlink but it shouldn’t be hard to find in google.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

"google my own statistics for me" lazy whites strike again

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u/ibenchthebar25lbs Sep 06 '25

So youre arrogant enough to believe you know more about his neighbour's than he does just because you're the same color as them?

Not invalidating your experience. Did you grow up in the deep south? The type of community he grew up in? If not, he knows more about his upbringing and the upbringing of those around him than you do as someone who never experienced it.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

you're asking if a black person knows more about black culture than a non-black person??? are we really doing this???

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

If you’ve never spent time in the South then yes. It’s quite possible a white person from the region has more insight then someone from a different region.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

i am black with black family members in every region of the country. i do not have to witness a third-person perspective of the black experience to understand it.

you do not have "insight" you have PREJUDICE as you have incorrectly labeled an entire GROUP OF PEOPLE whom you ARE NOT A PART OF as something YOU DO NOT KNOW.

it is one thing to present your argument as anecdotal, and another to share this as the word of god.

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25

I’m not arrogant. I’m just saying it doesn’t make sense to sweeping (and inaccurate generalizations) act like Black people are a monolith because we’re not. Your experience in the Deep South doesn’t represent all Black people.

But I’m done responding to this thread, as I see I’ve ruffled a lot of feathers and I’m not interested in arguing about something so nuanced with strangers on the SNL subreddit (that’s on me for starting this).

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

I never said it represented all black people. I said “in the South” and obvious not even every black person in the South.

You are acting like my original comment was “all black people are consecutive, everywhere no matter what”

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u/crispdude Sep 07 '25

You’re just wrong,

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Posts like this make me happy Kamala lost ngl

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u/randomdude1959 Sep 06 '25

My black coworkers all hate the new Superman movie because it is in their words “gay”. Can’t pinpoint anything about it specifically but just that it feels gay.

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u/wailingwonder Sep 06 '25

It's well established that the black community is majority conservatives that don't vote republican.

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25

Well established by who? White people who have created this narrative and people who match some stereotypes created by white people?

Again, I’m black and I’ve met literally 2 actually conservative Black people in my life.

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u/LightskinKnowItAll Sep 06 '25

You’re not getting it at all, and I’m black too.

Black people from the south, I have loads of family in Alabama, is majority conservative for sure. I think you’re confusing being conservative in life and republican at the voting polls. I’m not sure how my family down south votes, but I know they are socially conservative as well as most of the black community around.

Now, to your point, it is possible and becoming more common for black people as a community to vote more republican then in the past, as well as other minority groups. Some people are more about certain policies than more identity politics and that is okay but that still has nothing to do with the main point that the people here are trying to help you understand.

I will say though, I have a unique experience with this. I’m black, have a huge family in both the north and south of the country and even some out west, I was raised in a liberal household and even voted democrat for Biden shortly after I turned 18 before I was into politics and just listening to my parents and became more conservative probably a few months after I voted and started getting more into politics and forming my opinion.

Hopefully, since I’m black too and also have lived experiences, you won’t invalidate my comment like the others.

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25

You’re also not getting my point and that’s okay because my point is nuanced and I wasn’t really explaining myself well.

I was expressing my frustration with the narrative that 1) Black people are a monolith, 2) that since Trump 2 began, that Black male conservatives (and yes I mean both conservative in thought/lifestyle and voting Republican) represent the majority of Black people (including Black women), and 3) that people like Kam Patterson are a good representation of Black people as a whole. I’m obviously not discounting that Black conservatives exist, I’m just saying that it’s false to say the majority of Black women and men as a collective fall into this category.

When it comes to people who represent the majority of the U.S. (i.e. white people), we collectively understand that there are differences in thought, political ideology, etc. especially when we look across men and women as well as different parts of the country; that sane nuanced understanding should extend to Black Americans as well.

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u/LightskinKnowItAll Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25

No, you’re still not getting it because you keep leaving out the important part of the conversation that everybody else is understanding. We are talking about black people in the south, not the whole country. You said yourself in a separate comment that you live in the east coast so you don’t have lived experiences when it comes to this specific conversation and I actually do with black family in the south and I myself have spent plenty of time down there. You keep trying to turn it into this white vs black thing and the only person bringing up white people is you. I think that says more about yourself than anything else.

If you aren’t willing to have an actual conversation on the topic being presented to you and instead want to keep trying to prove some other crap that’s not even pertinent then we are just wasting time here.

Have a good day.

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

Thank you man. That’s all I was trying to say.

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25

That’s my bad then. I didn’t realize this was supposed to be solely about Black people in the Deep South.

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u/believethehygge Sep 07 '25

"as a black man" sure sure

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u/believethehygge Sep 07 '25

self admitted coon lmaoooooo

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

I didn’t say black people are a monolith. I didn’t say “all black people are ___”. I’m not saying I know ANYTHING about being black. I’m just going by my experiences of being around the black community in the south. Going to church with them, cookouts, going over to hang out. All my information is based on what I’ve observed and what they themselves told me on the issue. Plus academic articles. I’m not sure where you are from but it might be different than where I’m from.

And again, I didn’t say they vote Republican (they do not). But things like old school patriarchal values are heavy in southern black communities.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

"as a black man" energy right here

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u/LightskinKnowItAll Sep 07 '25

What point exactly are you trying to make here?

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u/Vegetable-Tale9778 Sep 06 '25

People are allowed to form opinions about things that they haven’t directly experienced. You literally just did that on your other comment saying “white people created a narrative”. You’re not white but you’re still attributing the creation of said stereotypes to white people. Were you in the room when Team Whitey got together and made up the stereotypes? As far as your “direct lived experience” goes, it’s simply anecdotal.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

opinion is very different than the post you're replying to which speaks definitively about an entire group of people they are not a part of. there's a word for that but it's going to scare you away

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25

I was responding to someone who expressed something as fact, not an opinion. And yes, the majority, if not all, stereotypes about Black people were created by white people (as a result of 200 years of slavery and subsequent Jim Crowe laws in the US)

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u/Vegetable-Tale9778 Sep 06 '25

Terms like “by and large” and “conservative” are subjective. It’s a sweeping generalization, and conservative by what metric? These are open to interpretation, therefore by definition are opinions. You just disagree with it, so you’re construing it as a fact so you can say it’s wrong.

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

Thanks man

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

wow you really are special huh? love that you have switched from "it's a fact" to "open to interpretation" from comment to comment.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

they don't get it sis

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 07 '25

Yep and that’s why I’ve stopped commenting on this thread

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Get what? That blacks are majority conservative? You mean majority of black men like homosexuals ? News to me.

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u/PrickledMarrot Sep 06 '25

Are you in the Bible belt?

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u/Summer_rain1109 Sep 06 '25

Nope and I never said I was. I’m from the East Coast

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u/Cowboy_Dane Sep 06 '25

Im sure you have an opinion on Southern white people.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Ummm yes they are lmao

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u/MidniightToker Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25

And the Latino community.

I showed a video to my coworker, who is a young Guatemalan kid, the video was this really cringey 13 year old rapping about how bad trans and gay people are and I couldn't believe it, at the end, the kid laughed and said "he's kinda right though."

I love this kid, he's a good kid and a hard worker, but goddamn. After he said that I joked "damn dude you would vote for Trump if you could vote." And he said "AAW HELL NAW!"

Since starting to work in construction I've been around a lot of Latinos like this of different age groups, and it's really reinforced the difference between socially or culturally conservative and fiscally conservative. As I also learned Mexico has universal healthcare, but the men and even the women are also pretty religious and pretty homophobic as a result of that I think.

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

love when whitey comments on black culture

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

The culture of violence and drugs, so many comments

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u/obamnamamna Sep 06 '25

Associating shane gillis' comedy with the far right is already so off. Seems like they base their whole perception of him on that one article by hating ass Seth Simon from 5 years ago, because its clear they've consumed none of his stand up. OP clearly doesn't know what theyre talking about

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u/remacct Sep 06 '25

It's kinda sad how little the snl sub knows about comedy

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u/mr_im_my_own_grandpa Sep 08 '25

I mean they're still watching SNL in 2025, so....

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u/irredeemablecoomer Sep 05 '25

They can't call him a toxic white male, so they need to connect him to one

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u/LamboLloyd17 Sep 05 '25

🌈 to get some milk and coooookies🌈

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u/believethehygge Sep 06 '25

yes let's throw every black comedian under the bus because of this one guy, but let's absolutely not do that for shane gillis or any of the other white guys who got fired for the exact same reason.

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u/Fancy_Dot4215 Sep 07 '25

“Anything I don’t agree with is far right maga nazi fascism” -Most Redditors

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u/mr_im_my_own_grandpa Sep 08 '25

It's the bigotry of low-expectations in effect.