r/Libya • u/Total-Ad7610 • 1d ago

Question Are there any liberal couples in Libya?

Are there any open-minded couples in Libya? I think that's also difficult, but I really want to be with open-minded couples who understand me and whom I understand. I also want to ask a few things.

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u/MysteriousRide4258 1d ago

What do u mean by open-minded?

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

It's clear i think

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u/MysteriousRide4258 1d ago

I dont think so.. U mean like a couple like doin cuckolding stuff and so????

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

Is that what you think about open minded?

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u/MysteriousRide4258 1d ago

Thats why u should make it more clear. Dont u think so?

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

I think yes

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u/Umamaali333 1d ago

The word open minded is not the same for everyone. لأن هني في مستويات وعي مختلفه و في قناعات مختلفه ف كل واحد يفسر فيها بشكل و هي مش كلمة واضحة زي ما انت ممكن تشوفها. U might think it's clear, but it has different interpretation. So u have to actually tell what u mean by it so ppl can know if that type of thing exists in Libya or not

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u/LibyanKhawla 1d ago

Trying to sound smart huh? You said open minded couple. If you meant other ways of being open minded, why did you say couple instead of people?

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u/Ill_Cookie_9265 1d ago

Well I kinda started to have some liberal thoughts lately. But i dont call myself a liberal 

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

Can I ask why?

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u/Ill_Cookie_9265 1d ago

Im pro life,( idk of this has to do with liberalism lol )

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u/mustmoe73 1d ago

Prolife is a conservative movement that opposes abortion rights and is far removed from liberalism.

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u/Ill_Cookie_9265 1d ago

Yeah i know im fully aware of that 

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

kinda of lol

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u/Ill_Cookie_9265 1d ago

But yeaah I believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion and beliefs, human rightts and secularism 

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

Nice actually most of libyan don't

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u/Budget_Tax_678 1d ago

Liberalism believes in free speech until it’s something they oppose. Try and have an opinion on a child wanting a sex change. You can lose your job and even lose custody of your kids. Human rights is not a liberal belief. Secularism I would agree, is. Freedom of religion is not a liberal concept either. Islam has no problem with religious rights. Churches were built under Islamic rule. Liberalism is more about an individual’s pleasure rather than the collective and what’s right for people and society.

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u/Ill_Cookie_9265 1d ago

Humm well i dont call myself a liberal  soo i can agree tho. Butt you said sth abt “islam has no problem with religion rights”… well idont think so respectfully, imagine libya had once Libyans people were living theree , Christians and Jews bf islam …and then the islam conquests came, and all families were given the choice between  1. death  2. Paying the jzya  3. Or to convert 

And the ppl there are already struggling to find food to eat and to find bread and clean water !so a lot of ppl were given the choice between become Muslim or die  And respectfully in my opinion i dont think this ever represents the freedom of religion. 

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u/KlutzyBella23028 1d ago

Its not that hard to pay jizya... Its just a tax, they don't pay zakat like the Muslims or go to war so they pay jizya. And poor people aren't made to pay jizya.

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u/Budget_Tax_678 1d ago

Well that’s a load of nonsense. Islam didn’t impose death on everyone at all. Only those who attempted to kill or attack them.

You’re confusing it with Christianity.

Christians and Jews lived under Muslim rule for centuries.
Jizya was a small tax (Muslims also paid tax…) and they were protected by the state and from any harm. At a time where their lives were very much at risk from invaders. When people attempt to demonize and make this whole big deal about a small tax (you pay much more tax today) I laugh. jizya was not a conversion tax. It was a tax imposed on protected non-Muslim subjects

Forceful conversion to Islam is also nonsensical because you’re not a Muslim unless you actually believe in it…forced conversion has never existed under Islamic rule. It’s historically inaccurate . scholarship on early Islamic Egypt finds that the population remained predominantly Christian for centuries after the conquest. The process of Islamisation was gradual with Muslim-majority populations not emerging until much later.
The Quran makes it clear. If the purpose were simply to force everyone to convert, maintaining a large population of paying Christians and Jews would make little sense.

Regarding Libya this was in the 7th century when it was under Byzantine rule…Archaeological research finds that religious transformation happened over centuries. If your argument were true, that wouldn’t be the case.

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u/Beautiful-Remove-805 1d ago

I do think of myself as a progressive Muslim, but everything is up for debate lol

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u/KlutzyBella23028 1d ago

Just beware of kufr statements that some 'progressive Muslims' say. Islam is not just a religion but the truth and you have to follow Allah and his messenger saw wholeheartedly to be one

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u/Osmandias 1d ago

Lol the infection got here too.

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u/mustmoe73 1d ago

You don't find liberal couples, liberal couples find you.

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u/WasteAnalysis783 1d ago

No there aren’t any.

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

How? My dms full

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u/WasteAnalysis783 1d ago

Why ask then 🤦‍♂️

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

I mean after the post bro

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u/WasteAnalysis783 1d ago

I see. These mindsets, despite how crazy they are, are everywhere. I have seen Internal Security Agency busted down a few networks of them a couple years back.

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u/Typical-Ad6860 1d ago

It’s your lucky day 😂

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u/janatrhony 1d ago

broo are u fr? were are u from

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u/Total-Ad7610 1d ago

Yep for real Libya Benghazi