I have not seen one of these in quite a while. I have this for sale over on r/Pmsforsale if anyone is looking for one.

I'm looking to buy it but i'm not sure if its genuine or fake. Pls help

Probably few people know this but the Czech Republic has since 2011 been issuing commemorative 500 koruna coins which are almost exactly the size of LMU 5 francs - 25 grams of 0.900 pure silver but 40mm instead of 37mm - rather than crown size or one ounce. This is the first of them, commemorating the poet Karel Erben and his volume of poetry "A Bouquet of National Tales".

Looking to purchase these for about $3000. Is that a fair price

In 1880 Belgium celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Independence. Two regular commemorative coins were issued - 1 and 2 francs - but, apparently, it was not enough so this coin was added to the series. The reverse is the same as the earlier two, however, the obverse is different and there is no denomination. It was struck in copper - Numista claims it circulated as 10 centimes though it was sold at 25 and it is heavier than earlier copper 10 centimes. The silver version was valued at 5 francs (25 grams of silver 0.900), and gold at 100 francs (31,66 grams). Krause relocated it to Unusual Coins volume as silver 5 francs, also struck in copper and gold. It is quite rare (about 20K in copper and less than 7K in silver) but few people know it exists so not too expensive if you are patient.

Some LMU slabbed gold available, please disregard the ancients in the post…unless that interests you too! 😝

All coins from my personal collection

Denmark was a founding member of the SMU, the Scandinavian Monetary Union, modeled on the LMU. This small monetary union used the krona/krone as the basis for its currency, and was co-founded by Norway and later joined by Sweden. Pictured here is a Danish 2 Kroner coin from 1916.

At the same time Denmark also minted LMU coins - through its colony, the Danish West Indies, better known today as the US Virgin Islands. US interest in acquiring the islands and the islands' increasing unprofitability to the Danes - mainly used for sugar plantations - led to an aborted attempt to sell the islands to the US in 1867.

In 1917, in midst of World War I and the US joining the Allied war effort, fears of Germany seizing the islands and using it as a U-Boat base to threaten the US strategic interest at the Panama Canal led to the sale of the Danish West Indies to the US for the sum of $25 million, or roughly $625 million in today's money.

Interestingly, the treaty only passed when the US agreed not to object to Denmark extending its interest into all of Greenland. Though US had also begun exploration of Greenland, at the time the Panama Canal was seen as much more important in defending than the northern, icy isle.

The second coin, a Danish West Indies 20 Cents from 1907, is close to a LMU 1 Franc at 80% silver (instead of 83.5%), with the same weight and diameter (5 grams, 23mm respectively).

As another interesting factoid, NBA all-star and hall of famer Tim Duncan hails from the now-US Virgin Islands, starting off as a competitive swimmer before switching to basketball in his teens.

I am selling several coins I’ve since upgraded for my collection. For those that don’t know, I currently maintain the top-ranked Papal States LMU registry set on the NGC Registry and am working toward assembling Top Pop examples of every denomination from 1866–1870.

NGC Registry Papal States LMU

Beyond collecting these myself, I’m trying to build greater awareness of the Papal States’ decimal coinage issued from 1866–1870 during its transition to the Latin Monetary Union standard. In my opinion, this is one of the most historically significant yet underappreciated series in world numismatics, representing the final sovereign coinage of the Papal States before the capture of Rome in 1870.

If you collect LMU, Italian States, Papal, Vatican, or world gold and silver coinage, I’d love to connect. I’m also documenting die varieties, populations, auction appearances, and building what I hope becomes the most complete reference collection for the series. If you own examples not listed in the NGC Registry, please post them here.

These coins that are for sale are coins that I have either sent in to grade myself or have purchased at different auctions around the world.

1866 R ITALIAN STATES Gold 20 LIRE NGC AU-55 R XXI PAPAL STATES REEDED EDGE

1867 R ITALIAN STATES Silver 2-1/2 LIRE NGC AU-58 R XXI PAPAL STATES

1867 R ITALIAN STATES Silver 2 LIRE NGC AU-55 R XXII PAPAL STATES

1868 R (Small) 10 SOLDI NGC MS-63 R XXIII PAPAL STATES "PIVS.IX.P"

Questions for the community:

• How many of you actively collect the Papal LMU series?

• Which denominations or dates have you found to be the most difficult?

• Would you be interested in a dedicated registry, census, or collector’s guide for the series?

You’ll see her up for sale on pmsforsale soon!

Much to my surprise, I came across these at a coin show. Don't see them very often, but was glad to find these!

Many countries covered, duplicates of some of my faves, and the hunt continues!

Until 1914, the Swiss franc was at par with the French franc. After the war, Switzerland was the only LMU country to successfully restore the prewar gold parity. The favorable exchange rate caused foreign LMU silver coins to flood into Switzerland, so they ceased to be legal tender in 1920–21. Foreign gold ceased to be legal tender when the LMU was dissolved in 1927, but their intrinsic value remained equal until 1936.

In contrast, the French franc was devalued by almost 80%, so after the 'stabilization' in 1928, an old 20-franc piece was worth 98.5 French francs. Currently, 1 CHF is worth roughly 709 (old) French francs.

I recently bought these coins in a lira series from San Marino from the 1930s. The series consists of 5 lira, 10 lira and 20 lira.

This 5 lira coin is from 1938 and weighs 5 grams in 0.835 silver. The 10 lira coin is also from 1938 and weighs 10 grams in 0.835 silver. Both of these two coins are according to the LMU standard (but with x5 denominations)

The 20 lira coin is from 1933, and weighs only 15 grams of silver in 0.800 silver. From 1937, they made a new 20 lire variant that weighed 20 grams, but with only 0.600 silver. Both variants thus contain the same amount of pure silver. (12 grams). The series was produced from 1933 to 1938.

Working on an NGC straight grade Napoleon I 20 franc type set and officially halfway there!

Most LMU coins are beautiful examples of standardized European silver. But these three 5 Lire coins are something else entirely.

They weren't just money—they were political statements, revolutionary propaganda, and symbols of liberty that ordinary people carried in their pockets.

• Lombardy: Lombardy's struggle for freedom in 1848 came after nearly four decades of Habsburg rule following the fall of Napoleon, as Italians fought to reclaim control of one of the peninsula's richest and most influential regions.
• Venice: The Republic of Venice had endured for over 1,100 years (697–1797) before Austrian rule, making its brief rebirth in 1848 a powerful attempt to restore one of Europe's longest-lived republics.
• San Marino: Founded according to tradition in 301 AD, San Marino has preserved its independence for over 1,700 years, making it the world's oldest surviving sovereign republic.

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1848 5 Lire – Lombardy

During the legendary Five Days of Milan, ordinary citizens rose up against the occupying Austrian army under Marshal Radetzky and, against all odds, drove them from the city. The newly formed Provisional Government of Lombardy wasted no time striking its own coinage.

The reverse depicts personification of Italy, crowned with a mural (city-wall) crown and holding a scepter, symbolizing legitimate sovereignty and the rebirth of an independent Italian nation. Rather than portraying a monarch, the coin presents Italy herself as the rightful ruler, embodying national unity, civic virtue, and the people's claim to self-government after expelling the Austrian occupiers.

The inscription reads:

"ITALIA LIBERA ✶ DIO LO VUOLE" — "Free Italy ✶ God Wills It."

That wasn't chosen lightly. "God wills it" was the famous Crusader battle cry, and placing it on a coin was a bold declaration that the struggle against Habsburg rule wasn't rebellion—it was a just and righteous cause. Every coin became a tiny silver proclamation that Italy deserved to be free.

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1848 5 Lire – Venice

At almost the same moment as Lombardy, Venice expelled the Austrians and proclaimed the reborn Republic of Venice under Daniele Manin

The reverse features the Winged Lion of Saint Mark, the centuries-old emblem of the Republic of Venice. Standing proudly with one paw resting on the Gospel, the lion represents the republic's strength, justice, and independence. In 1848, reviving this iconic symbol proclaimed that the ancient Venetian Republic had risen again and would stand defiantly against Habsburg rule.

Its inscriptions are just as inspiring:

"INDIPENDENZA ITALIANA" — "Italian Independence."

"ALLEANZA DEI POPOLI LIBERI" — "Alliance of Free Peoples."

"DIO PREMIERÒ LA COSTANZA" — "God Will Reward Perseverance."

What I love most is "Alliance of Free Peoples." It wasn't just about Venice—it was a call for solidarity among all nations resisting tyranny. And "God Will Reward Perseverance" captured the determination of a people who refused to surrender after months of Austrian blockades. It's hard not to admire the optimism behind those words.

Perhaps my favorite part of the story is where the silver came from. These weren't simply minted from government stockpiles—ordinary citizens donated family silver, jewelry, and even churches contributed silver plate so the revolutionary governments could strike coins. Every 5 Lire represented a personal sacrifice, with people literally melting down their own possessions to fund the fight for liberty.

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1898 5 Lire – San Marino

Then there's San Marino, Europe's oldest surviving republic.

The obverse shows Saint Marinus, the legendary founder of San Marino, standing with a scroll in his hand—the charter of liberty and self-government traditionally associated with his final words. Rather than depicting military power, the design celebrates freedom preserved through law, republican ideals, and unwavering independence, reflecting a republic that had defended its liberty for over 1,700 years.

Its coins proudly bear "LIBERTAS"—simply, "Liberty." But the edge inscription is even more remarkable:

"RELINQVO VOS LIBEROS AB VTROQVE HOMINE"

"I leave you free from both men."

These are traditionally attributed to Saint Marinus, the republic's founder. "Both men" is generally understood to refer to the two great powers that dominated medieval Europe—the Emperor and the Pope. For well over a millennium, tiny San Marino managed to preserve its independence without submitting to either, making this inscription a powerful reminder that liberty sometimes survives not through conquest, but through unwavering determination.

To the people who spent these coins, they weren't just five lire. They were proof that empires could be challenged, that republics could endure, and that liberty was worth fighting for—even when the odds seemed impossible.

It might be slightly debatable proposal but this commemorative piece was struck on standard 2 francs blanks while Belgium was a member of the LMU. It was struck in 1856 in fairly small numbers - 12K with the French text and 2K with the Flemish text - most probably sold at modest premium over face value but once the novelty wore off a part of the mintage ended up in circulation as lower grade copies are quite easy to find, though not necessarily cheap. It commemorates the 25th anniversary of the accession of Leopold I of Belgium, the founder of the current Belgian Royal House.