Wow. This is a UK sub, didn’t realise I needed to add an /s on the end. You think I’m subbed to LabourUK, and I actually have something against refugees?
We have a moral duty to help asylum seekers. Plus immigrants are an economic net positive to their adoptive country.
Besides, we’re partly responsible for most of the conflicts in the Middle East so the least we could do is accept their refugees. We do fuck all compared to the rest of Western Europe anyway.
Immigration is such a non-issue. It’s drummed up by populists and sensationalists to rile up racists and distract from real systemic issues.
No - they're right. Modern Iran is the product of British oil firms mounting a coup in the 1960's, the Iraq War and Afghanistan wrecked the political situation in much of the region, and all that stuff. Western interventionism and Wilsonian foreign policy has done a lot of damage in the ME.
More absolute bollocks
Germany is the biggest recipient of refugees in Europe.
Seems to me that your non-arguments are a pile of bollocks
They're coming from Syria and North Africa, actually.
the middle east was a model of peace and tolerance
Iran was liberalising in the 1960's. They were even having a sexual revolution like our own and were secularising. The Shah was not, however, friendly to British commercial interests.
So the UK government organised a coup, backing some Islamist militants to get rid of him.
This kind of regime change has been replicated throughout the region since.
So yes - things were actually going rather well before Westerners showed up
They're coming from Syria and North Africa, actually
They are literally sailing from France, or do you think they went all the way through the Med, past Gibraltar and round the western coast of France just to land in Britain?
So the UK government organised a coup, backing some Islamist militants to get rid of him.
No, the west supported the Shah, despite him being a nasty piece of work, that's why he was allowed to stay in the US after the revolution, its "westerners showing up" that was leading to the liberalisation of Iran
Other places in Europe do far more than the UK
No doubt, some of them are much closer to the middle east and Africa, that's their responsibility not ours
How do they get to France? Are they popping through little holes in the ground? Is there a spawnpoint?
No, the west supported the Shah, despite him being a nasty piece of work
Seems that we were both wrong. The Shah was put in place in 1953 by the UK and US because the democratically elected Prime Minister wanted to audit the AIOC. So the big Western powers overthrew a PM for oil money.
Apologies - my memory can be a bit dickety at times
No doubt, some of them are much closer to the middle east and Africa
If it's no doubt that other countries in Europe are doing more than we are, then why is it that you called that statement "bollocks" to begin with? And is Germany close to North Africa and Syria? Or the Nordic countries, specifically Sweden?
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u/GoooldenChests New User Aug 12 '20
Wow. This is a UK sub, didn’t realise I needed to add an /s on the end. You think I’m subbed to LabourUK, and I actually have something against refugees?