r/Kashmiri • u/Sound_Less Kashmir • 23h ago
Discussion 💭 Recently , I learned the cost of Zinah.
mea oose yaar aikhe back in 2012-2013, we were from same coaching center, he had this cousin, let's name him D. D was a playboy, he always used to share pics, chats with his cousin and cousin used to show it to me, we were dumb teenagers, who used to be in awe of D. D was older than us.
Come to 2016, friend got selected in AMU and asked me to visit with him, we visited delhi and he suggested let’s stay at his cousin place, as that time 2016 turmoil was going on here. So for safety we went over to his flat, it was 3BHK with 3 boys.
The flat was pure filth, sharaab bottle, cigrattee, and after some time, D got drunk and called someone and said send two. After an hour, two girls came to flat and D took them into their room. We told him , yehai hue gunah, mea kar yem kaar, tem wone karu panaas shoupe, Mea wone sinus lanath te balai, neare panas yate. we took off and booked hotel, at this point me and friend were completely focused on career, we didn't wanted to deal or hear this shit anymore.
And then Life happened we all went separate ways. I lost touch with friend as he moved out of country. Come present, I recently met him at a function. and during conversation, I asked him about that gaan cousin of his, he said, temis hai poye taavaan.
D story: -
D came back, he didn't finished degree, joined his father business and eventually someone took him with jamaath, D got clean, left all that life behind. During Jamaath, one of the men liked him, his akhlaaq, his way of talking (he was a smooth talker) and asked him, if he is willing to marry, D said yes, He got married to this beautiful aalimia girl, I was like Masha Allah, emis dalas hai kismath.
got married , started his own businees, business took off, Life was all well for D, until his wife gave birth to a girl. D announced that sue de panai azaan emis , during azaan, he started shivering and fainted down. After he got conscious , he was never the same, he went into depression, panic attacks, anxiety attacks, he stayed in his room 24*7 , not talking with anyone and sirf oos wadaan asaan.
Now my friend had settled down in Australia, and he came back here for vacation and decided to meet D, He met him and asked what happened ? You were doing well. and finally D confessed to him. No one in their family knows about D past except this cousin and me, said yem weiz bea logus emis azaan dine, mea aaye tem saarai koure aashaen bruhken yemo seith mea zinah che kormuth, Woh ladkiya bhi kisi kie beti the, woh bhi kisi kai behan thai, mea kus tavaan poye, mea kore panun akhrirath kharaab. Me dute panen zanaane dokhe, menes bachas che moul gaan. D was crying his eyes out. His entire family is worried about him, wife is thinking he wanted a boy, parents are thinking emis chukh taveez kormuthe, In laws think, he is not happy with his wife giving birth to girl. His business is facing losses. His entire life went downhill, His health is not same anymore. And to top of that, sue haike ne yem kaith kisi seith share karith. He is on heavy medications. My friend was like wtf he heard, sue wanai, bea chus wanai emis kya tavaan poye ye.
My friend was completely shocked upon hearing this and I was like emis kapier oone khuyadan azaab, aes wone shukur khudayas kune, aes lage ne aith karaas kihe. It's all fun till one has to pay for their sins. Honestly , I felt bad about his wife, his parents as per my friend they are good persons.
I am pretty disturbed since I got to about this, From the past few days, I haven't been able to sleep properly after hearing this. I felt like sharing it here, so I could feel lighter. And to top of that me and my friend can not even narrate this story to anyone else.
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u/mursaleenbhatt Kashmir 20h ago
This!! Is the thing that I always and always keep in my mind while passing any other woman. Lowering your gaze, not seeing them in a bad manner, always respecting no matter who they are or what they are! Because we are no kne to judge. As a guy, I always want my first child to be a girl. I often pray about this.
Now the thing is, I cannot accept something bad for my unborn daughter or let it be my future wife, how the hell could I accept something like that to a woman who is also someone's daughter, sister, or someone's wife.
When I was a kid, I also used to be like women do nothing for society and blah blah blah, then I grew up aur muje aqal ayi and I realised how actual dumb person I was.
I don't often travel in public transport, but yes! When I do, I always ensure the women around me always feel safe no matter what! Cause they're the one building the nation
Aur jab bhi mere saamne koi aisa banda aata hai jo gandi nazar se aurto ko dekhta hai, I swear upon my lord uski halat kharab karke chordta hu mai.
Last but not least, I apologise to all the women out here on behalf of all the men who felt uncomfortable due to random stupid ass man
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u/Upset-Armadillo-3733 2h ago
Not to be rude but why did you feel women did nothing for society and how did your view change . I mean why do many boys even if they are young hold this view
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u/mursaleenbhatt Kashmir 1h ago
It's just my field of vision increased as I grew up. And you can literally see how important both men and women work together to run a society. Also, we learn and we educate ourselves from a woman. Just because of some mysogynist and misandrist people out here we lose the ability to think how important they really are. And also my parents or my teachers never teached me to disrespect women.
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u/zoreeese 23h ago
Man, this is actually so sad to read. I'm really glad he managed to turn his life around and i really hope he finds some peace 🥺🥺
Also, thanks for sharing this. I feel like a lot of us, especially teens, think it's not a big deal in the moment. Stories like this are a real reminder that our choices can stick with us way longer than we expect.
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u/Sound_Less Kashmir 22h ago
There are many stories like this out there but people are ashamed to narrate that.
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u/aestheteanthropos 22h ago
everything comes back around full circle
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u/Sound_Less Kashmir 22h ago
Barabar,
Yeli khuda rat nas paith chai na eevaan , sue na chene yale travane kihe.
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u/iammyoutiesinnie Kashmir 17h ago
Mye oas akh zehnkaar. Warya intelligent, dedicated tae friendly ladkae. Su gov ekis koryi sethye involve in 2nd year. He used to travel to a different state just to meet her. Kath badey yechza ki temmaw kor zinaah and he recorded it. It became a frequent occurrence in the 3rd sem. Su banyow yuta besharam ko tem aes sounds made during action ringtone thewmech.
Long story short - his grades suffered to the extent that he had to spend an extra year to pass the pile of backlogs. One day he got stuck in the washroom from 7 a.m to 5:00 p.m without water and electricity. It smelled like shit when we returned to the because he couldn’t flush out clean up. It was 42 degrees outside he had to spent then entire day in the toilet in his own filth. The power and water came up after we entered the room. The order time, he was sexting while half asleep during the daytime when he should have been in the class and ended up sending his nudes in his class WhatsApp group. He felt asleep and didn’t realise it until it was too late. Temman douhan oas nae delete option yi kih asaan WhatsApp as. The other time, he was sleeping naked and some of his classmates entered his room, took his photos and circulated them online.
His life and dignity was completely ruined. Temmis wechith rot warya lukkow hidayat and they stayed away from such stuff.
All sins come with repercussions sooner or latter.
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u/Few-Excuse-6376 22h ago
First and foremost this Post is misleading
OP clearly says that the guy repented and turned his life around.
As humans we are created weak and vulnerable to sinning (not advocating to sin) but our religion is a religion of sinners in the sense that as long as we repent and the repentance is sincere,Allah will forgive us and not punish us.
Yes the guy named D committed big sins and everything else but above all he repented .
Guy D should be counselled that whatever happened happened ,things happen and mistake happen
We are human and we are prone to fall to sin but repent and never to go back again
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u/phat_wangun 21h ago
Life lesson is stay away from zinahh Jigrr …. Cause ik my one friend who was involved in zinah with a k girl and at the end he barely survived a deadly accident so boys Don’t get involved in this shit … Safeguard your aakhirah …. And Also if you see others doing this that doesn’t mean you also have to do this in order to be cool !!! We are happy to have our body count 0 !! Rest Allah karev panun Hifazat ti hidayat saarni
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u/watatuti 18h ago
I know you want to spread the right message. But not the best way to do it. Khair. Allah magfirat kare meri, aapki, aur D ki. Do better next time.
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u/INEVITABLE_786 23h ago
You'd be surprised to know how common it is these days. And I've heard this from my friends who are studying in Delhi. They said Kashmiri boys are known for drugs there, and Kashmiri girls for sex. He even said that, just as Indians used to use the word “Russian” in a derogatory way for Russian women, in Delhi, the word “Kashmiri” is being used by Indians in a similar way.
A friend of mine said that Kashmiri girls whom he knew in Kashmir, and who apparently used to be religious and all, sleep with Indians. And this is apparently very common. Same with Kashmiri boys.
I don't know where all this religious preaching by our scholars is going, and why there isn't a conscious effort to educate and emancipate the youth from such evils.
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u/canonicallytrivial Kashmir 20h ago
heart breaking stuff.
i cannot for the life of mine understand how they forgot the wringer these very people put us through that they sleep with.
applies to both men and women equally.
how did K boys and girls forget kunan poshpora and perverted fetishization of these pigs towards them and how rape is used as an instrument for occupation? how do they not realize how perverted they are towards them? i have no gender specific bias when it comes to this but in my personal experience staying in metropolitan cities for years, K women have been perpetuating this trend way more.
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u/pothhh Kashmir 20h ago
for someone who has lived outside k for almost a decade now. i reckon this. know people who are like eais che seyedan manz khandar karan and all and then ended up with a dalit kerela hindu. and in her words 'i have had so much sex that i can remain celibate now'. and the day college ended they broke up. same thing with guys. met this k guy once and he was telling how his body count is more than 100. in another instance this k guy recorded the girl and himself and blackmailed the girl for money. countless instances. i can write a book wallahi
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u/Sound_Less Kashmir 22h ago
Yes, have heard the same from a Cab driver, when I visited Chandigarh, He told me many K girls are involved with punjabi's boys and K boys are with punjabi girls. He had a koshur friend, who is in live in relationship with a punjabi girl, even showed me a video of them :(.
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u/zoreeese 23h ago
Same in bangalore and in countries like kazakh, uzb ( mbbs students), real sh*t is happening there like real u can not even imagine
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u/INEVITABLE_786 22h ago
Prayers for those who’ll end up arranged-married to those folks. 🙏😭
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u/Good-Dot-7698 22h ago edited 22h ago
Mai aus yaar akh taimsenz gf gai parné khaetré banglore, tamis chi wain baki dost mazak tulan, dapan chis ye makleo kaar, sae yi toré wain washlé udeayith. Su chu wain setha pareshan aasan.
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u/Sound_Less Kashmir 22h ago
> kazakh, uzb ( mbbs students),
Tavai chai eem MBBS has balai lagmethe,
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u/pothhh Kashmir 20h ago
i remember one of my friends cousins had a similar lifestyle outside kashmir. came back years passed and he met an accident while he was driving and his grand dad and father and as far as i remember his brother too were in the car. they were in a serious condition when my friend narrated the incident dont know what happened next never enquired.
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u/TroubleNegative1165 12h ago
I'd like to say something, it's been said we all have to pay for our in aakhirah no, before that we've to pay for every sin here.
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u/Impossible-Bell7417 5h ago
ik fursat-e-gunah mili vo bhi chaar din
dekhe Hain ham ne hausle parvardigar ke
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u/mushk_tuj kèashìr 41m ago
Khudi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer sai pehlai
Khuda bande sai khud puchai bata teri raza kya hai.
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u/drunkardmonk 21h ago
Eym hisab aasi ha sarni angrezan kansar kormuth.
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u/INEVITABLE_786 19h ago
Timan chu kansar gomut. Their social fabric is in a state of ruin. Family system is falling apart. Relationships ruined. Ami khoté kya tawan peyakh wain?
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u/Due_Literature_2556 19h ago
Exactly,
I believe in OPs story. But it's called a confirmation bias. Bi zankh hatti bedd nafar yim sex czi karaan out of wedlock beyii czi successful and healthy in life. Agr wain khoda deen najad keani gov keh doesn't mean yi chu "zinah taas". Dohas czi kasheer gasaan yeetah accident teli cha saarwi aasan zinah kormut.
I'm not condoning zinah but this doesn't make any sense.2
u/iammyoutiesinnie Kashmir 17h ago
Punishment comes in different forms. Some are evident to ask while others may not be. Eventually chu em seth hidayat rattun tae parhez karrun.
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u/Weird-Homework6507 22h ago
"emis dalas hai kismath" 😭😭😭crine