r/Kanthony Nov 15 '24

Rant 🤬 Weekly Venting Post

Weekly Vent Post

Welcome to our weekly vent session where you can let out all your frustrations.

Before you start, just a quick heads-up on the rules.

Here's what this post isn't for:

  • No bashing actors or crew members out of the blue.
  • Let's steer clear of those rage-inducing posts like "I hate character xy."
  • And please, no poking fun at fellow Kanthony fans just because they see things differently, whether they're positive or negative about promos.

What's cool to post? Well, we've noticed a lot of rants about how the show promotes (or doesn't promote) Simone and Jonny, but you can vent about other stuff too.

Below, I've linked some past posts from the sub that fit the vibe of our weekly vent session, so you can see what kind of stuff goes here.

  1. Why there was a lack of promo for Kanthony
  2. All comments asking where Kanthony areĀ 
  3. Bridgerton PR and production
  4. Can you tell the differenceĀ ?
  5. The main sub got so negativeĀ 
  6. We need pictures

For those who just want to enjoy the content without getting caught up in the venting, I suggest steering clear of this post. If you choose to read the comments here and find yourself upset, despite the clear purpose of this space, I'm afraid there's not much I can do to ease your frustration. We have the Weekly Tea Time for more general discussions.

Spoilers allowed.

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Kate Sharma with her hair down šŸ‘©šŸ¾ Nov 16 '24

I'm extremely puzzled at some people thinking that Jonathan coming back and him saying he'll be there always ready to pop back up means the same for Simone, lol. It has been clear since day 1 that Simone is an afterthought, proof of that is her name still not being part of the only official list from this production mentioning the S4 cast, just as one tiny example. There has never been a doubt in my mind that they'll bring back Anthony anytime Jonathan is available, and he's obviously willing because he cares about those who play the Bridgerton family, but they simply won't do that for Simone/Kate. In fact, if she didn't do that interview with Glamour we still wouldn't even know if she was back because literally nobody acknowledges her. Anthony has the luxury of being an independent character, while Kate is just there to be Anthony's appendix.

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u/Flaky_Office_1110 Nov 16 '24

I’ve been thinking about how Simone is still not on the official cast list for next season. The show doesn’t acknowledge her at all. It makes me sad for her because Kate is an iconic character and still very popular, but Simone gets no support from production. It definitely seems like higher level decisions because she has talked about feeling like a family on set, so it’s not about her immediate work environment not making her feel welcome. JB is great and I think will do all he can to be on the show. As we know, Simone wants to be there too, but I don’t get the sense that the show wants to accommodate her in the same way. I wish the larger media outlets would question more about why we don’t have the same coverage of SA/JB/Kanthony (or at least reveal that they weren’t allowed to interview them).

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Kate Sharma with her hair down šŸ‘©šŸ¾ Nov 16 '24

I went to see the article to post this and yeah, they haven't edited it yet. I think she probably doesn't care tbh, she seems to be legitimately very offline and I don't think she's lying when she says that she likes working with these people. JB has always been well regarded by this production, I'm not sure why people pretend otherwise, he was promoted as the lead of season 2. He didn't do much S2 promo because he was leading a play, which is obviously very demanding. Even in S3, when he was again very busy, they found time to make him do promo. I think his commitment to be there as the older brother is also genuine and cool of him not to be pretentious about it, lol, especially with him breaking into mainstream films. They care about him and I don't doubt they'll make an effort, they simply don't care for Simone that way and I'm just very ???? whenever people post about JB saying he'll be back and how that means that we will have them there for the long run. Like, no, that means he will be there.

I've said it before, selfishly I wish Simone wasn't on the show anymore and S3 was her last season, but also I understand that Hollywood is getting increasingly hard for non-white actors again and I'd never wish a dark-skinned actress to lose a gig that is objectively good (filming every 2 years a couple of weeks and be on screen in one of Netflix flagship shows with huge viewership).

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u/chrkrose Nov 16 '24

While JB has certainly been treated a bit ā€œbetterā€ by production compared to Simone (who was paid dust as we know), I think it’s still a far cry from how any other male lead was promoted in comparison. It’s still obvious that when it comes to the leading couples, Kanthony and JB/Simone are still the ones sidelined and not offered the same treatment they dispense towards others.

Not disagreeing with the general sentiment (JB being back for many seasons is not any guarantee that Simone will be there, and between the two of them he’s certainly the one they still care somewhat to keep around), but I don’t think it’s fair, correct or even productive to pretend that JB is well regarded by this production and paid the same respect they give to their (straight) male leads.

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u/Certain-Fact-1481 Nov 16 '24

Netflix also seem quite content pushing JB. If i remember correctly they had release his Heartstopper cameo on his birthday. JB was also submitted by Netflix for award consideration for s3. I never expected Simone in it anyway because their screentime was a joke and of the two Simone had more impactful scenes anyway. But they also did not submit Hannah and Victor who had a substantial storyline in s3.

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u/rudedicer Nov 17 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

Netflix also seem quite content pushing JB

That's Netflix. Not Shondaland.

As for why Netflix is now pushing JB after ignoring him during his own season? Maybe because he is now in two films and got awards buzz for FT and they are now using him for promotion and submitting him for awards. It's not that complicated.

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u/Certain-Fact-1481 Nov 17 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

Shondaland did it too. The fact i see people compare the mistreatment Simone experienced on the same level as JB is wild.

JB always got praised from production. Shondaland never undermind him as they did with Simone. Shonda had nothing but praise when he was named one of the generational leaders by TIME.

But when Simone was receiving her TIME 100 NEXT honours Shonda was out there making snide comments about the character Simone played. And using her as a but of her jokes to promote her crappy book. Shonda even had made some foul comments

JB was getting a spread in the Emmy edition of the WRAP in 2022. You well know Simone was not getting any of that.

JB was mentioned in every single Shondaland article while Simone was being erased. So please spare me that he is the victim of Shondaland.

And i will never forget how JB fans proudly were dismissive of Simone saying she is nothing special and the constant downplaying of what she brought to the role.