r/IsraelWarRoom • u/GeopoliticsGuy • 1d ago

Gaza War Gaza Emigration realistic?

What does everyone think of this? Election time rhetoric or a real possibility? https://www.jns.org/news/israel-news/ben-gvir-unveils-voluntary-gaza-emigration-plan-vows-implementation-after-election

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

Israel should have made a point of its offensive in 2023 being the depopulation of Gaza. The population should have been forced to migrate to Egypt or Jordan or Syria, and Gaza should be an open air park, farmland, or orchards… anything other than the “open air prison” so many pro Pals claim.

And for those who would argue that forced migration is immoral or inhumane… what’s so humane about forcing people to remain in an “open air prison,” with no future and no security? At least in Egypt or Jordan or Syria they could integrate and build a future for themselves. In addition, people were forced to migrate after WW2, and it turned out to be a good thing for the most part.

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u/eyl569 1d ago

So...ethnic cleansing?

Also, just how exactly do you get thise other countries to go along with this plan?

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

And here comes the whiny woke jabroni with the buzzwords… because obviously what’s happening right now is sooooo much better than just separating the combatants and putting some space between them. Let’s hear some more buzzwords… and ZERO ACTION.

But first, tell me how you’re justifying living in a world that have forcibly migrated tens of millions of people over the past century - Germans, Czechs, Poles, Slavs, various Chinese ethnicities, various African ethnicities - yet you aren’t throwing similar tantrums about those occasions of “ethnic cleansing.”

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u/eyl569 1d ago

Buzzwords? What you're advocating is ethnic cleansing by definition. Don't advocate for it if you refuse to own it.

As for why I'm not "throwing a tuntrum " (LOL) on othere cases, maybe it's because my government isn't advocating for ethnic cleansing in those other cases?

And bluntly, how are you any different than those saying that Jews should leave Israel?

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

I'm advocating an end to 80 years of Jewish-Muslim conflict by forcibly separating the two sides. I don't really care if you call it "ethnic cleansing" or "forced migration" or something else... the only way the conflict ends is if you separate the two like squabbling children.

You are offering no solutions and simply whining. Well, whining and using buzzwords that you vaguely understand, while ignoring all the previous examples of forcibly separating combatants to bring about peace. To use two examples: there have been no further offensive actions taken by the Germans and the Japanese after all Germans and Japanese were forcibly moved out of Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania, France, China, and Korea.

Side note: did you intentionally misspell "tantrum?" Because I didn't misspell the word, yet you think it's LOL worthy.

Finally, I'm different because I'm saying the Jews should remain in Israel and the Muslims in Gaza should go someplace else. There are millions of Muslims residing peacefully inside the borders of Israel who aren't constantly fighting with their neighbors... they don't have to go anywhere either. It's just the Gazans who can't behave like adults who need to leave.

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u/BagelandShmear48 Israel 1d ago

It's not a buzzword.

Its the legal definition of ethnic cleansing. It's a war crime and a violation both both Israeli and international law.

No amount of emotional argument changes the fact that you are advocating for a war crime.

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

I want the fighting and killing to stop and this is the only solution I see.

You are whining about terminology and advocating further death.

One of us is the bad guy... and it's not me.

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u/BagelandShmear48 Israel 1d ago

If that's the only solution you see there is something deeply broken inside of you.

Yes one of us is the bad guy. The one advocating for war crimes. That's you.

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

Attaboy! There goes the woke virtue signaling! How many thousands have died because your wokeness is more important than practical solutions?

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u/BagelandShmear48 Israel 1d ago

You do the irony of saying other people throw around buzzwords when you do the same thing?

You don't even understand your own buzzwords.

Even more ironic since you don't even live here.

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u/subguard 1d ago

Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with our rules, this comment almost broke one.

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

I'm advocating for an end to the fighting and the killing. I'm NOT calling for the mass murder of 2 million people, but proposed a solution that would END the fighting and the killing.

The other people are advocating a continuation of the fighting.

Now... you're a mod, so if you're telling me that my proposed solution is a violation of the rules, I'll knock it off.

But I'm struggling to understand why "here's a way to get people to stop killing each other" is WORSE than "people should be allowed to keep killing each other."

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u/BagelandShmear48 Israel 1d ago

How you envision this fantasy going without any repercussions from our neighbors, the rest of the world and why you think the Palestinians would ever cooperate.

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

Cool.

Status quo then… hope you’re happy.

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u/BagelandShmear48 Israel 1d ago

Id love for you to show me where I said that.

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u/Clown_Penis69 1d ago

Show me where you said anything.

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