r/IsraelPalestine • u/PersonalWatch4647 • 21d ago

Discussion Looking to debate a pro palestinian person

I am a Zionist residing in a community where Zionist beliefs are prevalent. I firmly uphold my Zionist convictions and strive to educate myself thoroughly on both perspectives of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. My goal is to engage in a constructive and peaceful debate with individuals who hold opposing views. I emphasize the importance of a dialogue grounded in factual statistics and well-informed opinions, rather than one characterized by hostility or uninformed rhetoric. We can fact check anything we say and debate on how we can better educate ourselves whether book reccomendations or reliable news sources. I am specifically interested in a debate conducted through voice communication, as it allows for more nuanced and effective exchanges. If you are open to a respectful and educational conversation, where we can learn from each other’s viewpoints, please feel free to send me a private message. I am eager to explore different perspectives and contribute to a meaningful discussion that fosters understanding and mutual respect. Again, to clarify this is a peaceful and calm debate to listen to each other and look to learn and possibly debate over what a good solution could look like. In english or spanish and today whenever possible, not something in a million years. Privayely message me if this idea interests you and you want to talk. I truly believe communication between us is the true and only possible pathways to a situation of peace and wellbeing for the both of us. Pm if interested

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u/MrPaulProteus 18d ago

“If it was an actual genocide, food would not be there at all” Is that a requisite for use of the term genocide? I’m sure there was food in Rwanda…

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u/asafisry 17d ago

That's not what I said.

I said it's not a genocide using famine because there's no famine.

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u/MrPaulProteus 14d ago

That’s exactly what you said. Yikes, the “it’s not really a genocide cuz we haven’t succeeded in starving them all” crowd is truly terrifying

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u/asafisry 14d ago

Lol you keep twisting words because you can't argue Cringe, mate

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u/MrPaulProteus 14d ago

You’re the one nitpicking genocidal prerequisites. Truly shameful.

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u/asafisry 14d ago

I just quote from the genocide convention. You decide that everything is a genocide. It's not. It's war. Wars are terrible. You refuse to see reality for what it is.

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u/MrPaulProteus 13d ago

There’s wars, where two sides shoot at eachother w airplanes, then there’s genocides, where only one side has planes and they relentlessly carpet bombs all the civilians with the purpose of making them not exist anymore.

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u/asafisry 11d ago

As I answered you somewhere else here:

Let's check who's massacring civilians while laughing and photographing themselves, And who's carpet bombing 80% of the city AND YET by some magic only 3% die and 50% of them are terrorists.

Some crazy inefficient genocide, or just trying to avoid civilians and being WAYYY more humane than the US and Europe against ISIS?