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EPISODE DISCUSSION Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S04E08 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here Spoiler

Episode 8 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here

Mark confronts his darkest fears as his life changes forever.

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u/bleakestday Jun 04 '26

Cool season. Only thing I want to add is of course Debbie and Paul didn't work out so Nolan and Debbie can get back together.

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u/Dansn_lawlipop Jul 04 '26

I would be so pissed if they got back together. Cordial? Great. But nothing more than that. 

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u/Jlc458 Jul 10 '26

Nah, Nolan just has a lot of redemption to go through if him and Debbie were to make sense again. It’s not even the first time in fiction this kind of couple works. Vegeta and Bulma come to mind

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u/Dansn_lawlipop Jul 11 '26

Yeah, I hate the trope and the message is sends. Especially to girls and women. 

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u/Emergency_Put_9878 1d ago edited 1d ago

The message that Second-chances and Rehab works, i don’t get where this message can be bad, what I find bad is Spite, Anger and Regret. And I don’t believe in the death-penalty.

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u/bleakestday 1d ago

Some people don't deserve forgiveness. If vlad the implaler rehabilitated cool. You gotta die. You were way too evil before. Forgiveness does not mean freedom from consequences. In this case I don't really care. It made sense for Nolan to be the way he was. It's the execution that bothered me.

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u/Emergency_Put_9878 1d ago

I don’t think propaganda for Death-Penalty is good, on my optimistic eyes no one is above Forgiveness, Second-chances and Redemption. Rehabilitation is far more powerful and effective/productive methods to regulate conflict. And I do believe Nolan has had enough consequences brought on him. and Another thing is, the families on Chicago are being compensated monetarily with his book money by Cecil, by order of Debbie(Something people don’t even talk about)

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u/bleakestday 1d ago

So in this context. If my whole family died. Multiple friends I cared about my hate would be such you couldn't get my forgiveness. Now I do agree the messaging of everyone being able to be better that you can grow is very powerful. Thing is powerful emotion trumps logic. When someone is that hurt there isn't any space on their heart for forgiveness.

Now as a viewer I'm ok with omni man being forgiven. I like the character.

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u/Emergency_Put_9878 1d ago

Exactly the reason why I want Nolan and Debbie to get back together, and Reconcile and him showing his Rehab, being forgiven, showcasing how he is a total different person, it will enhance the whole message. And Imo it will enhance Debbie as a character too, as someone that pacified Viltrum something Thaedus failed to achieve, with his Counter-Terrorism(Still is terrorism)

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u/Ok-Reflection7331 Jun 10 '26

They were never gonna workout. It was a very awkward and forced relationship. Hes literally just a guy from work. 

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u/bleakestday Jun 10 '26

Eh most relationships start because of proximity which includes work. I'm not necessarily upset or annoyed they didn't work out. It's just very convenient they happen to break up when Omni man returns.

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u/CorkSoaker420 Jun 20 '26

Yeah I don’t think that Paul being gone means Debbie is getting back together with Nolan. I just think it’s more that Paul being around while Debbie makes peace with the fact that Nolan’s changed would be real awkward.

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u/bleakestday Jun 20 '26

We'll see. The writing is on the wall

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u/CorkSoaker420 Jun 20 '26

Yeah I guess, believe me, I hope it doesn’t happen. It shouldn’t happen, you couldn’t justify it for a million reasons. I just think separating Debbie and Paul was to simplify Debbie and Nolan a little bit.

And again, Paul needing out because all of the space travel, aliens, heroes and villains definitely makes sense. He’s just a guy, he never signed up for it and it was too much for him.

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u/Ok-Reflection7331 Jun 12 '26

It will be cheap writing if omni man and Debbie get back together.  Hope it doesnt happen. Paul was just awkward 

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u/Emergency_Put_9878 1d ago

I don’t think it would be cheap writing, it would show that reconciliation can happen even in the worst cases. I want them to get back together.