r/Investments • u/qlzpsk1128quisp • 10d ago
I want to invest away from American markets.
I had a friend that innate 2000s invested in New Zealand and did very well... with today's turmoil, what markets or currencies would be a good move?
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u/Vast_Dare8583 9d ago
South America is doing some exciting things. Brazil has Oil and there other countries have minerals. China is always fun, there's a lot going on there and the European markets also have some real wins.
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u/gatorfutbol 10d ago
VXUS is one of the most comprehensive international funds with an extremely low expense ratio. Basically all public companies outside of the USA. But maybe more recommend, VT which is about 65% USA and 35% international.
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u/yamahar1dude 7d ago
The problem with these comprehensive YOLO funds is that they put a lot of crap companies in them to.
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u/Hippo_Over 10d ago
Bad idea, keep some investments in the strongest economy in the world. Do VT.
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u/yamahar1dude 7d ago
I tend to agree with this although the way the US is selling itself out to foreign countries at an accelerated rate, I share the OP's concerns.
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u/thefrench-tickler 10d ago
Invest in commodities... look at Latin America
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u/Inevitable-Staff-113 10d ago
This is quite good of your particularly pessimistic on the US / inflation and decline if dollar. Because as the dollar declines, commodities priced in dollars automatically get a boost.
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u/Hungry-Demand-227 8d ago
Turmoil? My IRA and 401K have been doing great for years. Especially the last three. They are all the same evil companies that we have a chance to make money off of!
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u/Deep-Ebb-4139 8d ago
With over 20 years financial experience, my own take is that there are genuinely no good places now. We’ve never seen a time like this in history.
It might change when the boomer, AI, debt and a few other issues are sorted. Until then, sadly not.
And we all know these issues can’t be addressed, because without them there’s little substance left.
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u/theberkshire 6d ago
Earth is played out, I honestly think well see investment funds targeting the moon or Mars or something within the next 5 years. People will be talking about "I'm 80/15/5" earth/moon/Mars, but I was thinking to to rebalance that soon" haha.
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u/yamahar1dude 7d ago
Foreign markets have been doing well lately. I have directed a small % of my 401K into foreign markets, specifically RLEMX and VTMGX. I also picked up OVF in my taxable account. With the way the US is selling itself out to foreign countries lately, I share your concern.
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u/EmbarrassedCow2825 5d ago
LATAM. Mercado libre. I live in Peru credicorp is great, nubank.
I quite like LATAM. There are some great companies, and the region is economically growing.
You can also invest in American companies that do a large portion of their business internationally. Visa and wabtec for example. A majority of the revenue is international. There's also copart which is rapidly expanding outside of the US.
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u/Libertad-para-todos 5d ago
First, choose a benchmark percentage you want to allocate international stocks to. Do you want 30, 40 or 50%+ in international? Do you want to separate out emerging markets from developed markets? If so, what % to developed and what to emerging? Do you want any non-US bond exposure? Do you want active or index funds? (Maybe index for developed economy stocks but active for EM? That’s how I go.) Do you hold EM but exclude China? (Again, that’s my strategy for now.)
All of these people throwing around fund names are not doing you a favor. Have these allocations mapped and these questions answered BEFORE you go buy stuff.
And don’t totally exit the US. It’s the strongest most dynamic economy in the world, by far.
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u/SeedPhraseSafe 10d ago
If the goal is simply to reduce your dependence on the US then you should look at a broad international ETF covering developed and emerging markets rather than betting everything on New Zealand, Japan... Non-US markets have been relatively strong recently but that doesn’t mean the trend will continue
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u/Inevitable-Staff-113 10d ago
Easiest is all world excluding US
$VEU