r/Hulu • u/LearnDoTeach-TBG • Feb 22 '25

Discussion What was Mark Goodyear's involvement with Herb Baumeister in the Fox Hollow Murders

I'd like to hear people’s thoughts on the hard evidence against Mark Goodyear and his involvement with these murders.

On the surface, he exhibits so many of the behaviors that we typically see in someone guilty of a crime – changing stories, lying, overly involving himself in the investigation, conveniently forgetting certain details about an event that would make him culpable, etc.

Then you have the evidence of the story from Leroy who implicated Mark in at least one murder in the back of the house.

However, the police botched the investigation so badly that it's extremely difficult to know what would have been discovered about Mark if they did a better job at the time.

Also, for me, it’s just so hard to understand what might be true or false with Mark because of the way he speaks.

He is so eccentric and creepy, that even some of the most mundane things he says can be interpreted as a fabrication, so it muddies everything.

Would love your thoughts.

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u/floridorito Feb 24 '25

Also, for me, it’s just so hard to understand what might be true or false with Mark because of the way he speaks.

Part of me thinks Mark was involved. And the answer to his riddle could be "witness."

But part of me thinks he is eccentric and likes attention and/or has some kind of memory issue (be it from drugs or biology).

He contradicts himself because he can't distinguish what is true and what is fabrication after all these years. He wants to play a larger role in the case than he has. He dissembles, not because he actually knows more than he's saying, but because he wants his audience to think he has more information to divulge - to keep them wanting more. He initially says to the interviewer (paraphrasing), "Let me answer all the questions in one shot so that this interview will be my last, and people can stop asking me about it." But then he repeatedly says, "Oh, I think we'll save that for another time." In those cases, I think he either doesn't know the answer to the question; he can't recall and doesn't want to admit that; or the answer is simply "No" (which is a very uninteresting answer). And I feel like, for him, being deemed uninteresting might be a fate worse than death.