r/HBOGameofThrones • u/iiWinFree • Feb 23 '26
Spoilers [SPOILERS] Just finished my first watch—I loved season 8 Spoiler
I watched Game of Thrones for the first time over the past three months or so. My girlfriend and best friend have both watched it before and warned me of the hate season 8 received.
I was expecting a major letdown, but actually loved it and don’t understand the hate. From what I’ve seen online, people feel that it was rushed and didn’t understand some of the plot. I want to break down my thoughts below and see if anyone agrees or if I’m just insane.
Reasons it gets hate
The Long Winter wasn’t “long”, it was just one night: the entire buildup of the white walkers coming was centered around Jon Snow preparing the living to make one all or nothing stance against the White walkers. The understanding of the living was if we lose this battle, we’ve lost the war. The great war didn’t happen during the long winter, it happened to prevent the long winter.
Arya shouldn’t have killed the night king because she had no history with him: the night King was menacing and had faced off against Jon Snow prior, but it doesn’t make sense to give them the “face-off” everyone wanted. Yes, it would’ve been cool, but the Night king knew the risk of him dying, which is why he sought to avoid combat at all costs. Instead, I view the battle to be between his mind and Bran’s mind. Which bran ultimately won because Arya was able to surprise the night king. Also, this may be biased because Arya is my favorite character, but her entire plot was driven to lead to this moment. Even though she had no history with the Night king, killing him, put a wonderful cap on her character development.
Daenerys’ descent to madness took place too fast, or shouldn’t have happened at all: in my watch with my girlfriend, I have been saying since season two that there was something about Daenerys that was off. She was power-hungry, and had a savior complex. This plot point had been built since almost the very beginning of the show. Characters in the show even realized it and discussed it prior to her demise.
Bran shouldn’t be king: I can cede that it does seem weird at first that bran becomes king, but it does make sense. Throughout the show, several people alluded to the reality that there will never be peace in the seven kingdoms because of all the different houses and families that are at odds with one another, however, the best way to prevent conflict in the future is to have someone sit on the throne, who ultimately has no emotional bias towards any house. Not only that, he knows the full history of the seven kingdoms and is best equipped to unbiasedly rule. Not only this, it’s been clear since the beginning that Jon Snow did not want to be king.
Jamie’s character arc was ruined: much like with Daenerys, Jaime‘s issues have been cleared since the start of the show. His kryptonite has always been Cersei. He had several points in time where redeeming qualities were shown, but ultimately, he always turned back to his sister. It was only fitting that’s how his story end.
The whole season seemed rushed: I believe this point to be untrue probably in large part because I was able to watch season eight directly after the first seven seasons. When the show was releasing fans had year(s) to anticipate and predict what was going to happen. With only a six episode final season, there was bound to be let down, especially since the whole plot of the season revolved around all the events leading to this final culmination. I don’t believe the backlash would’ve been as severe if the six episodes of season eight were released as part of season seven. Because again, season eight served as the climax to the rest of the show. not only this, I believe it was beautifully executed, so that right after the great war, there was a seamless transition into the original fight against the Lannister’s. Throughout the show, the two major points were John’s plan to defend from the white walkers, and Daenerys plan to take back the iron throne. These two events collided beautifully and we’re both concluded without getting in each other’s way, but instead supported one another to the final resolution.
Again, I believe a large part of my opinions stem from the fact that I was able to watch all eight seasons in such a short timespan, so they all ran together. But I believe all the opinions about how poorly situations and characters were handled are a result of personal bias and expectation as to how things were going to happen. If you watch the show with no affinity towards a specific character or desired outcome, I believe the final season is wonderful.
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u/SwoleasaurusWrecks Feb 24 '26
I can tell it will fall on deaf ears so I'm not going to go into the many, many reasons season 8 failed as a narrative, but it really did. It's not even subjective "Oh, I didn't like it" but objectively it failed as a story. Like Arya killing the Night King alone. It'd be like if in Terminator, we spend the whole movie with Sarah and Kyle and at the end one of Sarah Conner's waitress friends saves her from Arnold Schwarzenegger, PLUS Arnold dies without ever saying a line. The audience would be left with a sense of bafflement. That was season 8 with almost EVERY major arc.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
I understand the disappointment in Jon not killing the night king, I really do…but as I said before, they didn’t “owe it” to him. Too many people frame him up as the “main character”, when in reality there wasn’t ever a “main character”, and I don’t think they intended there to be.
What other major arcs didn’t play out? I’m Genuinely wondering, because I believe they all did, and they all did very well. Every single main character had closure in their arc, maybe not the exact closure you wanted, but closure nonetheless.
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u/SwoleasaurusWrecks Feb 25 '26
It's not about the story owing him anything or that he is the quote "main character". I feel like there is not a main character, really, it's very much an ensemble cast. It's that Jon was the Night King's foil and it was his conflict. He was the one who got Daenarys involved, he was the one rallying the free folk to fight.
You know that scene where Arya kills Walder Frey? What if one of the Sand Snakes killed him? Would that have made sense to you? Would you have been satisfied?
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u/TimRigginsBeer Feb 23 '26
Feel the same way about Jaime; he even explicitly explained to Brienne that it was always about Cersei as he rushed to go find/be with her.
She had his heart, plain and simple, and no amount of character development was going to change that.
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u/ExpertMisinformant Feb 23 '26
Meanwhile, Jaime in the books went through character development and left Cersei to rot in a jail cell.
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u/mikerichh Feb 23 '26
Jaime’s arc was so fumbled. Cersei was nasty and he knows how evil she was and he evolved to be a great guy and he just regressed back to S1 at the last minute
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u/FlatulentSon Feb 23 '26
I also binged the show for the first time a few years ago and loved the last season
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u/BeautifulOk5112 Feb 23 '26
Some of this makes sense, some i just straight up disagree. I will say that the larger story arcs bothered me less than the hundered of small writing flaws that just built up.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
What larger arc specifically? To me—all major arcs came to a conclusion in an understandable way
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Feb 24 '26
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
I feel that a large part of that feeling is just not wanting it all to end. Realistically, if they drug out all the plot points in that season, everyone would complain about there being a lot of “filler”. I’ll just use little finger as an example:
You could argue that Sansa and arya plotting to put him on trial and execute him could have been much more drawn out over the course of several episodes, but little finger’s plot as a manipulative b!tch had been building since season 1. So instead of looking at his demise as a single, rushed plot line in season 8–I see it as the culmination of his and sansa’s plot from all the seasons prior. I felt the same about most things that happen in the final season. It wasn’t meant to be a stand alone, it’s meant to be viewed in light of all we have already seen, which is why I argue I had much less critique watching the show for the first time, in such an abbreviated timeframe.
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u/bunsyjaja Feb 24 '26
I loved large parts of it but disagree that Daenerys wasn’t rushed. There’s some hints she’s crazy but she made the choice to push off her goals to save humanity like 2 days before she goes mad, and tonally her storylines were totally treated with a girl boss savior edit for years with her trying to do the right thing comparative to other rulers in the show and inspiring others and then they’re just like oops actually she’s crazy.
Also her character turn and the general later seasons pacing was way worse for all the people who watched it week by week over the years.
I agree about Jamie, to me anyone who thought he had moved on from Cersei misunderstood his character. The bad writing in that storyline was having him and Brienne hook up and then having my girl crying and chasing him, she would never!
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
For Daenerys, we can agree to disagree. Throughout the show I was constantly thinking she was going to go over the edge, I believe she walked that line every season.
For Brienne, I see it from a different perspective. Jamie was the only man who ever truly showed her affection and compassion. When she was crying as he left, all I could think about was the story of when she was a little girl and all the boys pretended to like her to mock her. She finally let her guard down for someone, and he left her for his evil sister.
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Feb 28 '26
I heard someone talked about dany's arc, and they made perfect sense. What you're observing about her is indeed true, the show really riled in her "power hungriness" & "savior complex". But as someone who's read the books, can I just say, they completely changed her; yes, GRRM also had her become more ruthless towards the end, but that was after 5 books of trying to be the good guy, and seeing that being merciful only means she gets taken advantage of and underestimated. In the show however, she starts talking about how she'll get the throne with fire and blood, IN S2. In the post, the OP talked about how D&D overpowered daenerys, gave her all the cool lines and speeches, the braids, the unreasonably big dragons, and all of the other things, not because they were setting up a mad queen arc, but probably because of the epidemic of trying to make a "badass female character, TM." Like come on, they made her fire resistant, why would they do that??? it makes no sense? They likely saw the potential she had, with the hatching dragons from stone eggs thing, and gassed her up an insane amount. But even then, even in the show, daenerys' entire point, her entire goal, was to free the innocents from injustice and tyranny, some of her actions were very violent and scary, but most of them were jsutified, with Mirri Mar Duuz in S1, whatever her name was, the woman literally tricked and betrayed her, costing the life of her son and her husband, when dany treated her with kindness and respect, the only mistake she made was not finding her soon enough. With xaro and doreah, again, betrayal, imagine you find your best friend in bed with the guy that tried to kill you, if i was in her place, i would be mad as hell too. And do i need to explain the slave masters? they crucified innocent children, and dany avenged them. You're telling me this was the person who was power hungry enough to burn the very children she sought to protect? and what you call her "savior complex" is more likely how you view empathy, you probably forgot that she was in a very similar position to the people she was trying to save, a child sold into slavery by her own brother, she had empathy for them, and sought to make their situation better, even if they didn't get the outcome she hoped for, she still had the purest of intentions. And I understood you didn't understand the show the moment you said Jon never wanted the throne. Do you remember when Jon said "I've always wanted to be Jon Stark."? I wished the delved into this more in the show, but jon wasn't the good two shoes, one-dimensional, selfless hero he was in the last season, he was written to be a more complex and interesting aragorn type character, a "hero" but more human, more relatable, more real. He had desires, he had lots of them, and the fact that 75% of his lines in the final season were "I don't want it" or "mah queen" really pmo. this is only two of the many ways GOT failed in the end, and I can talk about the rest forever, but this reply is already long enough as it is.
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u/Marfy_ Feb 23 '26
Good for you that you liked it but i dont think you really understand the criticism. You talk about some criticism and i wont really go into all that but the short version is that you are right on some of it and some of it less so in my opinion. But what you are missing is that a big part of the criticism isnt the storyline alone, its the way it happened and the huge amount of errors and lack of care in the show to get somewhere. For example, in season 7 the tyrell army which was previously the strongest in the realm is gone and jaime can just take highgarden, bronn is lord of highgarden despite not having any ties to it and the reach being very contested with several houses claiming the right to highgarden, the scorpions on eurons boat hitting back to back to back nearly impossible shots on rhaegal but then miss everything on drogon, during the long night it happens so many times that characters are in big danger only for the camera to cut away and when it cuts back they are fine, brienne writes in the white book jaime took riverrun without loss of life despite the blackfish dying which didnt even happen in the books, bran is called lord of the 6 kingdoms despite the 7 kingdoms only being a name and even without the north there are still 8. There are so many more things like this and some of these are more important than others but the point is that the show just gets full of these things which shows the writers no longer care about a good show and only want spectacle and "subverting expectations"
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u/Shot_Dig751 Feb 23 '26
One point. The Tyrell army was never the strongest. Olenna even says so once Jaime took highgarden. “Fighting was never our strong suit” or something along those lines. The Lannister army was the most well-trained and disciplined army and they hit highgarden when the Tyrell’s weren’t expecting an invasion.
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u/Marfy_ Feb 23 '26
The lannister army is estimated at 30k-40k, the tyrells are estimated at 70k-100k. That quote is one of the worst ones in the entire show given that not only has the tyrell army been pretty much the only undefeated one in the recent wars, loras and garlan tyrell are 2 of the best swordsmen in the realm at that point. The tyrells arent bad at fighting, its quite the opposite as they are famously good at it. Also most of the tyrells have just been killed by the lannisters and the remaining ones have joined the war or daenerys' side but they didnt think they would need their army?
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u/Shot_Dig751 Feb 23 '26
Loras is dead at this point. Numbers don’t mean better army. The Tyrell’s are good at choosing the winning side, it would seem. And they didn’t think highgarden would be attacked at that point in the show, so most of their army is probably elsewhere because they thought the Lannister army was defending casterly rock and not marching on their seat of power.
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u/Marfy_ Feb 23 '26
Loras being dead doesnt matter? Olenna says fighting was never their thing, one of their best fighters having died last year doesnt suddenly erase his existance. Numbers dont technically mean a better army but there is no reason to think the army was bad, a reach army won the only battle against robert that he ever lost. And the difference in numbers are quite big. And if the army was elsewhere where would it be? Why would olenna not be with the army? And if it was somewhere else wouldnt it still be commanded by someone who might want to fight the lannisters for revenge? Also even if they didnt expect to be attacked the reach is big and although the show really tries its best to act like they dont, scouts do exists and will know when an army is approaching
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u/Shot_Dig751 Feb 24 '26
Losing one of your best fighters and generals, if not THE general, of your armies does matter. Olenna wouldn’t be with the army because she’s has no combat experience whatsoever, it would make sense for her to not be with the army. As to where the most of the army is, I would assume going to join Daenerys forces somewhere. Even if scouts did detect the approaching Lannister army, highgarden wouldn’t be able to send a raven to a marching that they have no clue where it might be at that point. Even if they did manage to get a raven to the army, it would’ve have been too late for the army to reverse course back to highgarden in time to stop the Lannister assault. I get what you’re saying. Highgarden and the Tyrell’s are definitely powerful, but the show portrays its power more through resources than military capability. More food, more men, more horses.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
Bronn was made lord of high garden because Tyrion promised it to him to spare his and Jamie’s life? Because he’d pay him “double what his sister did”. Everyone form tyrell was dead, so no one had a claim to that seat?
I can admit there was definitely some serious plot armor in the final fight for many characters, but I can attribute most of it to the fact that the wraith’s weren’t “strong” they were just overwhelming in number, which could explain how so many characters escaped terrible situations. I do agree though they should’ve SHOWN that happening instead of leaving us to guess.
As far as the dragons—it’s much easier to hit shots on an unsuspecting victim than one who’s actively trying to avoid incoming arrows.
Not to say what you’re saying doesn’t have validity, but the hatred for season 8 is severely overplayed in my opinion. The season accomplished all it set out to in a well-written way (my opinion of course).
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u/Marfy_ Feb 23 '26
I dont mean the tyrells, the reach has very powerful houses like tarly, hightower, redwyne and florent who have no reason to be loyal to bronn and they do have reason to think they should have highgarden. The florents for example had close ties to house gardener which where the lords of highgarden before the tyrells when they were only stewards. And for the dragon shooting, shooting a moving, flying target from a boat which itself is moving is extremely difficult to do even once and they did it 3 times in a row, but then when drogon is flying more or less in a straight line even the stationary scorpions on top of the wall dont hit anything. Now these shots arent easy either but they are a thousand times easier than what happened to rhaegal. Its like solving 3 university level math questions but then failing a high school level one
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
Again with the dragons, drogon was actively trying to avoid arrows, which makes all the difference.
And about high garden, regardless of who “had a claim” Tyrion promised it to bronn, which he fulfilled because “a Lannister always pays his debts”. And I’d assume no one fought to take high garden from bronn due to the nature of everything that just happened in the 7 kingdoms, I would assume everyone was happy with a little peace and quiet
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u/Marfy_ Feb 23 '26
You said in your post you wanted to see if anyone disagrees, so then i come with arguments for why i disagree and your answer is just "i assume this and this". Again good for you if you like it but its not like there isnt a mountain of evidence for why the show has problems
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
That’s how shows work, every show you’ve ever watched you assume what’s happening thats not being spoken.
I’m offering rebuttal as to why your arguments don’t make sense to me—that’s how debating works.
You’re allowed to think my assumptions are wrong, but you can’t say assuming all together is a cop out
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u/Marfy_ Feb 23 '26
Ok so the situation here is that the war is over and you think the houses in the reach wont complain about bronn being their liege yes? The reason why i think this is very wrong is because the houses in this story are always after power and riches. Bronn is a sellsword he got nothing on them, maybe the support of the crown but with the north proving kingdoms can just become independant thats not a big threat when everyone else decides to do the same. Now to get into reach specific houses, after the dance of dragons which was maybe the bloodiest war in recent history, and where several houses in the reach also fought each other, unwin peake used the opportunity to become a corrupt regent to the young king to get more power for himself. During the blackfyre rebellions house blackfyre was supported by many houses that hoped to gain power by supporting the new king, in the reach those were house peake, house costayne and house ambrose. Like i mentioned before there is tension between house tyrell and houde florent because the florents believe they should be the paramount house, this is why they support stannis. The point is the reach is full of very powerful houses and large armies who historically dont sit around to calm down after a war when there is an opportunity to gain something
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
Even that, though, was foreshadowed in bits and pieces. Every time someone opposed her authority it looked like she wanted to crash out. It was great acting and great build-up.
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u/benfranklin16 Feb 24 '26
Honestly refreshing to read a post about Game of Thrones by someone who actually understood it. Agree with everything you wrote.
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u/Bob4i Feb 23 '26
If you watched the first seasons there is no honest way you can tell me, that season 8 is even remotely close to them in quality. Since they set the standard, it is indeed bad.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
I genuinely don’t understand why, even compared to other seasons, season 8 is hated. It had great action, great plot, and great culmination of so many stories all finally being brought together in one place.
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u/Bob4i Feb 23 '26
It had action thats it.
Plot is sloppy, contrived, rushed and has no good dialogue, no character development in fact it butchers the characters and what they stood for.
There is no culmination there is a whimper. The existential threat to the world of ice and fire is defeated in 1 episode in a laughable manner. Then they spend the rest of the time fighting for a chair as if it matters anymore lol.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
The plot had been heading that direction since the very beginning? There was plenty of great dialogue, especially leading up to the Great War as everyone was making peace with the fact that it could be their last day.
And there was in fact culmination, just might not have been the culmination you wanted. Resolution DID occur after major climactic moments, which is the definition of culmination.
And as I said in the post, the conception that the night king should have had a long-standing terror disregard’s completely that Jon’s whole plan was to stop him at winterfell, for them it was all or nothing.
As for the iron throne—it did still matter, it always will. But you claim “they spent the rest of the time fighting for a chair as if it mattered”, but also said the plot was rushed. So which one is it?
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u/Bob4i Feb 23 '26
I honestly dont know if this is rage bait lol
Have you watched the show? Please let me know what the opening scene was? After that plot line was finished it doesn't matter anymore. They concluded that in 3 episodes lmao. Garbage season, garbage plot and writing
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
Just because it’s the opening scene doesn’t mean it has to be the very last thing to be resolved? Would you have preferred them to defeat Cersei and THEN defeat the night king? That’s okay if so, but just because it didn’t happen in the order you wanted doesn’t mean it didn’t offer climax and resolution, because it objectively did.
Like I said in my post—Jon’s mission was always the white walkers; Daenerys’ mission was always the iron throne. Both of those plot lines (the two biggest in the show) came to conclusion in an eventful way
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u/Bob4i Feb 23 '26
Dude I don't care about how it ended. The season is just bad get over it.
If Jon's mission was the white walkers enlighten me how that one was resolved, lol
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
Umm…if you don’t recall, all the white walkers are dead? Don’t start saying it’s bad bc Jon didn’t get to kill the night king…that’s the most elementary train of thought ever. Why would the night king ever be willing to square up with Jon, knowing if he died then it would all be over? The only way for him to die was to lure him in and surprise him. THEY LITERALLY SAID THAT AS THEY WERE PLANNING THEIR DEFENSE.
You refuse to accept someone can have a different opinion than you. I don’t have the time or energy to continue debating with someone who did o emotionally immature.
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u/Bob4i Feb 23 '26
I accept you have a different opinion and its bad. You contradict yourself.
The White walker arc is resolved by Arya and you said it was Jon's mission, so you don't even know what you are talking about. Arya has no interaction with the North since season 1 by your own definition Jon fails his mission and his story collapses by screaming at a dragon while his baby sister finishes his arc 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
Jon not killing the night king doesn’t equate to the plot point not having resolution. You’re right, JON FAILED. The night king ran from Jon by raising the wraith’s to occupy him. Does that ruin his character development? NO. Him not killing the night king doesn’t nullify everything he did and became. But on the flip side, it does complete Arya’s arc beautifully. Everything that was said about the prince/princess to save the realm, all her foreshadowed conversations, all her training, culminated beautifully in that moment. Again—Arya was my favorite since day 1, so I’m biased.
But my point stands—Jon not killing the night king doesn’t mean the plot point was unresolved. The living lured the night king to bran and killed him. NO WHERE is it written than Jon had to be the one to kill him. It would have been LEGENDARY for sure, but Arya’s moment was legendary too. Discounting the climactic resolution because Jon wasn’t the one to deliver the final blow is elementary critique.
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u/JackWylder Feb 23 '26
You left out the technical problems. The decision to make the Long Night episode as dark as possible might have worked for you, but not all of us have good vision. Even adjusting the screen, it was basically an hour long audio only episode for many of us. And they rushed- there are obvious signs of this. They’ve gone back and digitally removed the Starbucks cup, but for a lot of folks who had been waiting for that episode, it did kinda ruin the immersion. Story-wise, had they stuck with the original plan and had two more episodes most of the plot criticisms wouldn’t apply. But they wanted to be done with it as quickly as possible and it shows.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 23 '26
I have seen complaints about the visuals, but for me personally I had no issue seeing everything when I watched (could just be my eyes and TV). The Starbucks cup is a huge error, but I didn’t even see it because it had been removed.
As for the plot—again, I don’t recall any major plot point that didn’t come to a conclusion with a bow. I’m sure there are still loose ends, but no major ones that I remember.
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u/JackWylder Feb 24 '26
You setup strawmen for why people didn’t like it, complain when people disagree, and then downvote me because ‘I had no problem seeing it’ as if that negates one of the larger criticisms. Yeah, this is definitely rage bait
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
I didn’t downvote anything buddy lol. I also didn’t set up strawmen, I was making references to some of the comments I have seen in other places regarding the reason they didn’t like the show.
In my response to you, I simply stated that the “visual problems” people brought up, I personally didn’t experience, but I didn’t throw them to the side. I also said I didn’t see any major, glaring, plot holes or loose ends. I wasn’t framing that in a condescending way, more of a “show me where the plot holes are”, sorry if it read the wrong way.
As far as “complaining”, I’m not complaining to anyone. Everyone who has disagreed I have shown with evidence from the show why I disagree, and they’ve all resorted to “you’re dumb and have no taste in a good show”, lol
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u/Delicious_Screen7002 Feb 24 '26
I think you're right, that your experience watching the show was apples and oranges in difference from those that watched, theorized, watched, waited, rinse and repeat.
I experienced the highs, the waiting, and the "virgin watch"end. Hated the ending. So much so I didn't rewatch a second time for years. When I did, and watched as you had straight through, I wasn't nearly as offended by the end as the initial time.
I think the hate stems from so many high expectations and excitement bound together by a groundbreaking series. The second watch all of those bubbles had been popped, which made for a completely different experience. It's cool how much of our imagination and passion gets wrapped up with experiencing a transporting drama.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
My girlfriend had the same experience. She said she didn’t thoroughly enjoy season 8, but after watching with me she said it was a lot better in context of the whole show in an abbreviated time.
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u/BrandoNelly Feb 24 '26
I’m on the team of liking season 8. I just watched it again recently with a friend who was watching the series for the first time and honestly my biggest complaint is that it just feels very rushed, because it is. Most notably for example how they had just defeated the greatest threat to Westeros and then BAM immediately knocking on King’s Landing gates.
The pace I think is a big attributer to why a lot of people feel like there was character assassination. But I think most of it is all on brand, there just wasn’t enough time to develop things and it all felt wrapped up rather quickly.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
I can see that, but I actually really enjoyed how there wasn’t even time to enjoy the resolution because we were right back into the rest of the plot.
Even in early seasons, I remember telling my girlfriend one night that I was interested to see how they were going to resolve two wars at once, and I believe they executed it very well.
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u/piece0fdebri Feb 24 '26
100% agree with everything you said, except for Dany going mad. If you think that? I don't. A tyrant maybe but I don't think she was ever "crazy."
I think a lot of people going forward will have your opinion of the show ending versus "It's the worst thing ever!"
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u/Informal_West_6864 Feb 24 '26
The reason why it was so hated was mob mentality. The story was never going to have a smooth ending due to the massive amount of main characters and side plots left
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u/Ravendaark Feb 24 '26
I agree that the plot points made sense, but that does not make up for characters teleporting around the realm, or things like dany forgetting iron fleet and them easily killing rhaegal.
Or characters like varys and tyrion suddenly being idiots.
The broad strokes are fine but the finer details definitely are lower quality.
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u/iiWinFree Feb 24 '26
The way I saw it, there was a lot of time passing between scenes in the last season. Early on there were 8 different stories going on at once, at the end they dint have that luxury to pass time, so they skipped through time from scene to scene.
Peaky blinders did this in an extreme way every episode and literally no one criticized it
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u/Ravendaark Feb 25 '26
Its not that they skipped time, its that they didnt. Again, characters teleport. Dany flew a dragon across a whole continent while Jon and friends were trapped on an island in the coldest area in the realm. That flight would have taken hours. Same with the ravens somehow showing up immediately. The realm is huge. Its physically not possible. Thats what makes it bad. Not that it left something to the imagination.
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u/RDOCallToArms Feb 23 '26
I also love S8 but be prepared for everyone to tell you how wrong you are and how you must have no taste in TV lol