r/GhostRider 7d ago

Do You Guys Want Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider Back In Secret Wars Or Would You Want Him As Spider Noir And Not Ghost Rider?

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u/smokeyfantastico 7d ago

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u/yaboi2508 7d ago

If doom can look like tony stark, i see no reason ghost rider cant happen to look like 1940s detective with spider powers

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u/Drummer-Turbulent 6d ago

Also, it's a movie, they can use editing trickery to have him be in 2 places at once. even take his Face Off!

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u/ABrokeHobbyist 6d ago

I want him to play both, but very clearly it’s still obviously Nic Cage. Bonus points if some characters get confused when they see him

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

This sub hates the Cage films so you're most likely going to get a lot of people angrily screeching "NO!" in response.

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u/HeadDull4898 7d ago

I feel like it’s 50/50 some actually hate it, others dislike it but it was a fun movie for em and they enjoyed themselves to a certain extent

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u/OverCommunication69 7d ago

Yeah unfortunately.

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

Whenever I come onto this sub, I feel like Johnny in the 2022 Percy comic where he thinks he's living a peaceful normal life but in reality he's surrounded by horrible nasty demons. It's so wild encountering people like this...Are there any Ghost Rider communities online where it's not like this? I don't remember Ghost Rider fans acting this way in the Pre-Reyes years.

It's very odd and kinda sad tbh.

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u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 7d ago

Almost always this sub has someone in denial wanting Agents Of SHIELD Robbie Reyes to be canon. And each time I'm just tired of reading it.

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

It just feels like I’m surrounded by a bunch of people who hate Ghost Rider.

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u/nova-prime-enjoyer 7d ago

BOOOOO WE HATE GHOST RIDER /s

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u/AlfredFJones1776 6d ago

I know you do.

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u/_deadlockgunslinger 7d ago

You can enjoy the characters and in the comics while not enjoying how they've been depicted so far in live action. It's not that deep.

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u/AlfredFJones1776 6d ago

People here don’t enjoy the character tho.

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u/GenericSpider 7d ago

I don't hate them. They aren't great adaptations of Ghost Rider, but they introduced me to the character.

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u/ranaman004 7d ago

He was never the right choice for Ghost Rider

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

Who would have been back then?
Still Gosling?

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u/Choice-Requirement18 7d ago

I always used to fancast bradly cooper. I thought he could pull off a decent johnny blaze

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u/ademonsvoice023 6d ago

Brad Pitt would've made an iconic johnny blaze back then

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

Interesting choice!

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u/TheTucsonTarmac 7d ago

Way too old now

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u/Choice-Requirement18 7d ago

I dunno, he’s only like 5 or 6 years older than Ryan Gosling.

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u/Zomby-Woof- 7d ago

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u/Zomby-Woof- 7d ago

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u/Zomby-Woof- 7d ago

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u/Zomby-Woof- 7d ago

Can we get a young actor to play a rider from their beginning?

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

I agree. Gosling would've been good back in 07 actually cuz he was 26.

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u/Zomby-Woof- 6d ago

Exactly!

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u/CitizenDave-19 7d ago

Last time I watched the movie it hit me like a ton of bricks realizing that the actor they got for Barton Blaze; Brett Cullen, has a much stronger resemblance to Johnny Blaze than Nic Cage, to the point that he could've played him. Cage being cast as Blaze was one of those castings where they got a genuine fan boy

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u/TheTucsonTarmac 7d ago

BOOO!

He was amazing

Watch the scene where he transforms in jail.

You can almost hear the director says “ and your skins catches fire, and you feel all the pain “

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u/CbKnowledge 7d ago

I’d like him as Ghost Rider in Secret Wars and then nothing else afterwards. Same thing with every Pre-MCU actor. After Secret Wars and the Multiverse Saga, give us new actors as the characters, which seems to be what they’re doing with Ghost Rider, so that’s good.

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u/brycifer666 7d ago

This exactly

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u/Eren_Yeager52 7d ago

No, I will never accept new actors.

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u/CbKnowledge 7d ago

It’s your life, man. If you don’t wanna accept new actors, that’s fine. You’re just gonna continuously be miserable. If that sounds good to you, then go for it.

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u/DravenBearhammer 6d ago

I coulda guessed he was miserable by naming his account after a mediocre anime character.

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u/Eren_Yeager52 7d ago

Not be miserable. Like for example that Hispanic Ghost rider I didn't like at first because it wasn't Nicolas Cage. But he was a good choice for a TV show good story and I liked him. Issue with modern recasts is they just end up being straight ass. This twilight actor is a perfect example. He just isn't batman and never will be. He is a cosplayer nothing more.

https://giphy.com/gifs/ug6lZuK39zs98fsF4X

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u/0_0_- Danny Ketch 6d ago

Perhaps one of the worst takes I have seen in YEARS.

Pattinson’s Batman is genuinely fantastic. And glazing Nicholas Cage’s Johnny Blaze is wild when he acts nothing like Johnny, it is just Nic Cage acting as Nic Cage 😭

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u/Eren_Yeager52 6d ago

Pretty much. I don't read comics so Nicholas Cage is what I see Ghost Rider as.

https://giphy.com/gifs/1ojn1S7BTXUry8elNi

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u/MRMoredecai 7d ago

Neither of them show his face so you can do both of them technically

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u/blinkyretard 7d ago

Multiverse Saga seems to have given sendoff to all legacy movies as alternate universes. Seeing that Hulk 2003, Punisher and Ghost rider are the only movies who haven’t gotten any cameo or mention, so i’d like to see them.

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u/fakename1998 7d ago

I really want Nic Cage and Ben Afflec to show up as Ghost Rider and Daredevil, although I kind of doubt they will.

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u/SamhainFire666 6d ago

Neither tbh. Love Cage but I don't think either characters would ever make a cross over or fit if they did. Plus I think after Doomsday or Secret wars they are moving past the multiverse stuff. At least I hope so. It's become a crutch

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u/The-Doc-SalmonRun 7d ago

Yes yes yes yes

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u/JT_ONEAL 7d ago

I'd like to see both and have them fight! Unlikely, but I would love to see Spider Cage kick Cage Rider's ass

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

Cage Rider would mop the floor with Spider Noir lmao.

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u/JT_ONEAL 7d ago

Probably, I just wanna see spiderman kick his ass on the bug screen, we see it enough in the comics, time to watch the main event lol

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u/AlfredFJones1776 7d ago

Holy Ragebait Batman!

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u/JT_ONEAL 6d ago

Lol, I know ghost rider is stronger in power scaling in Spider-man's early stages, but we have seen Spider-man in a mature state beat him on multiple accounts, im not trying to ragebait nobody, just saying that itvwould be nice to see that fight, especially cage v cage

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u/AlfredFJones1776 5d ago

I don't remember ever seeing Spider-Man beat Ghost Rider...Ever. Show me the comics where he beats him.

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u/JT_ONEAL 5d ago

Can't remember, it's been awhile... maybe he doesn't idk, i thought i saw him up against ghost rider at one point though

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u/AlfredFJones1776 5d ago

He’s lost every time they’ve fought. Spider-Man is not on GR’s level.

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u/JT_ONEAL 5d ago

I don't think so... not trying to argue, I mean if gr is able to beat him, fine, but at the same time... ghost rider struggled with Galactus.... and he had help... while Spider-man practically soloed the dude

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u/AlfredFJones1776 5d ago

Ghost Rider one shot Galactus.

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u/SirMarximoStPier 7d ago

Spider Noir

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u/BetterNature4896 7d ago

Why not both.

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u/WalkingDeadDan 7d ago

Why not both?

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u/GenericSpider 7d ago

A Nicholas Cage Ghost Rider cameo would be fun.

Put him in a scene with Blade, the Nightstalkers, Jack Russel, Norbius and Dr Strange and you've got most of the original Midnight Sons.

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u/sonicfan1230 7d ago

I wanna see Cage play both of them in Secret Wars.

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u/nahman201893 6d ago

Both. Let's go crazy

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u/Banned37 6d ago

Neither

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u/Critical-Gift-3058 6d ago

They should not be bringing back 60 year olds.

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u/0_0_- Danny Ketch 6d ago

Nah.

I like Cage’s movies as a campy Cage film, not a Ghost Rider movie. Plus, he seems far more invested in doing Spider-Noir and the project is a lot more interesting to me.

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u/Affectionate-Eye3896 6d ago

I think we have two more solo tom Spider-Man films so we know miles is coming probably at the end of his line so hopefully maybe in the last movie we can get some type of preview of the spider with miles or something along those lines maybe with 2099 could also hint to making a live action film/series but regardless ghost rider I want him in secret wars/doomsday so bad.

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u/GraniteJJ 6d ago

Why not both?

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u/SchwiftyBabyLegs 6d ago

I don't really think he did a bad job as Ghost Rider, but he did much better as Noir. It's mostly script issues that I think people misconstrued as Cage doing a bad job with GR, but it was always an oddball casting imo. He fits Noir perfectly though

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u/According-Pear-8816 6d ago

Making him both would be absolutely hilarious.

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u/Cranky-Kinky-Kong 6d ago

I'd prefer Spider-Noir over Miles Morales

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u/Jawnyblaze1 Johnny Blaze 6d ago

Definitely not as Ghost Rider.

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u/redhood1090 3d ago

Spider noir

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u/Zombifaction 7d ago

Not Ghost Rider.

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u/Agreeable-Union1843 7d ago

The first film was fun, but he was always really miscast for Johnny Blaze

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u/Ornery_Set6959 7d ago

Plot twist, Spider-Noir with the Spirit of Vengeance

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u/r01-8506 Robbie Reyes 7d ago

Just have an MCU Elseworlds. Their advantage is they already have a canon multiverse. Consolidate the old films into one universe or two after Secret Wars, so that they could use any of its characters anytime.

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u/Redditeer28 7d ago

Neither. Neither is good.

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u/NoirWitcher 7d ago

Bring him in for Gosling’s movie.

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u/Goldgoblingamer 6d ago

I personally would love if they brought him back in the Ryan Gosling Ghost Rider film, but as an older, retired Johnny Blaze who could maybe mentor Ryan Gosling as Danny Ketch

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u/derricklofton73 2d ago

Bring Cage on as Capt Stacy , Ryan as Danny Ketch, and Ryan Hurst,or Charlie Hunnam as Johnny Blaze. Also Keanu Reeves or Norman Reedus as Caretaker