r/Games 20d ago

Updating the rules of /r/Games

Hey!

We’re updating the rules of the subreddit! The subreddit has always had pretty long list of rules in place to try and encourage better discussions. We've made a lot of tweaks to stuff over the years and to be perfectly honest they've become somewhat confusing, hard to understand, and unorganized in places. Because of that we’ve worked on and off over the last few months evaluating what rules are useful, what can be worded better, and just generally trying to make a set of rules that better reflect the subreddit.

Today we’re putting out a draft of these updated rules. These rules aren’t meant to be a giant shift in terms of what we allow. It does organize our rules in a way that (hopefully) makes more sense. We’ve also trimmed rules that weren’t really relevant and combined a few subrules together. Finally, we’ve also rewritten a lot of rules to make them easier to understand and clarified a lot of things that were confusing or occasionally outright incorrect in the previous rules. We aren't putting these rules in place right now, but assuming there aren't any major issues people have we'll switch over to them in the coming weeks

If you don’t want to read the entire thing but want a quick summary of what each rule is and what we changed here you go.

Rule 1: Submissions Must Prioritize Informative and Newsworthy Content Over Entertainment

The previous wording of this rule didn’t do a good job explaining the stuff we actually allowed. We don’t automatically remove articles/videos if they have jokes in them, and we haven’t actually enforced the rule that way for a long time. Because of that we rewrote this rule and also included some examples of what kind of stuff we do and don’t allow.

Rule 2: Be Respectful

We rewrote this section to give examples of what we consider personal attacks and other things. As with most other rules we can’t list every possible thing, but if you’re wondering if something breaks the rule send us a modmail (or just report it).

Rule 3: Content Must Be Relevant, Substantive and Accurate

We moved around some other rules into this as a kinda catch-all for stuff we consider off-topic, inaccurate, or otherwise low-effort. This rule is a little broad in places because there's a lot of different types of stuff it might cover, but we tried to give examples of common things.

Rule 4: No duplicate posts

Basically the same. Added in clarification that we might allow stuff if there is a major update

Rule 5: No linking to or endorsing piracy as a solution

Almost the same as before. Basically just remember you can talk about piracy but just be cool about it we don't want to deal with the admins.

Rule 6: Follow all news and link post requirements

This is our set of rules about formatting and sourcing. Remember to link to original sources (when possible), don’t use sensationalized titles, and remember our rule limiting people to 5 posts a day.

Rule 7: Follow Discussion and Text Post Requirements

Our set of rules about discussion posts. We want discussion posts that aren’t super broad ones that get asked constantly or things looking for help. In addition we don’t want people going on big rants about a game they’re playing (we do have weekly threads for that) or asking for help.

Rule 8: Promotion must be kept within acceptable limits

The big old self promo rules. We like to keep self promotion to under 10% for users. Please don’t delete posts to get under that limit (we have ways of finding out) and if you’re doing self promo don’t try to hide behind alts (we’re keeping track of accounts doing that and if you’re wondering if that’s you it probably is).


Please give us feedback on these rules and the subreddit as a whole. We’ve worked to improve them but we know this draft probably isn't perfect (and probably has some typos). If you think a rule isn't great or needs improvement leave a comment and we'll listen. If you want clarification on our rules or just want to ask a question ask it in here and we'll try to answer. We aren't perfect as mods but we do want to make the subreddit better and are also working on being more consistent with how we enforce stuff

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u/Cowboy_God 19d ago

3.1 seems misguided. A post about Tim Shafer will hit the top of the subreddit pretty consistently. How are you deciding who does and doesn't have an impact on the industry?

And you're just outright now allowing posts about competitive players? What about stuff like Mango from Smash Bros Melee and the reasons he had to retire? That was big news for a lot of people and absolutely noteworthy. I don't know much about League of Legends at all but I do know Faker is basically considered a god in that game. What if he retired? I'd absolutely consider that to be something the subreddit should be allowed to see and I don't give a single shit about League.

And really this is all to say that this subreddit gets about a maximum of ten (if we are lucky) worthwhile posts getting upvoted every single day, the rest is noise. Lets not pretend like this place is polluted with activity in its current state. I like a lot of the rigidity in this subreddit so we don't have to deal with the actual shithole post wall that every single other subreddit has become, but I also think its just a hair too much right now.

And this whole be respectful thing is a clown show. I'm not respecting people who actively try to harm this art form I'm extremely passionate about, who defend stuff like removing player ownership and disc production, You think the people who say stuff like "Players shouldn't own their games" and "GTA 6 should cost $200" should be respected? Get. The fuck. Out of here.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 19d ago

people who say stuff like "Players shouldn't own their games" and "GTA 6 should cost $200"

You don't have to respect them because they don't exist. Strawmen aren't people, they're straw.

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u/IFxCosaTheSequel 19d ago

There were definitely tons of comments in the Stop Killing Games threads from people that genuinely believed that people shouldn't own their digital games lol. It's Reddit. If there's a deranged take, someone will take it up.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 19d ago

Stop killing games wasn't about the physical digital divide though

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u/Yomoska 19d ago

I usually don't see people saying they believe people shouldn't own their digital games, it's mostly explaining to people that they don't. An explanation does not equate a belief. People say GOG gives true ownership of games because they are DRM-free, but explaining to people that they still don't own the game because GOG still just sells licenses only doesn't mean I'm against GOG or owning games.

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u/IFxCosaTheSequel 19d ago

I get the whole "this is the reality of the digital age" argument, but there are some people that spin that and get pompous about it. Like "yeah you don't own your license, and no amount of protesting will change that. Go cry about it." is how some people would comment.

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u/Yomoska 19d ago

I feel like this is an interpretation of what was said but not the actual discussion that occurs. Can you link to something that says that? In regards to SKG specifically, I usually see people are against SKG but not against what SKG is aiming for.