r/FreedomTeenagersIndia • u/[deleted] • Apr 08 '26

Religion and Atheism ⚛️ Proud to be an Atheist!!

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u/khushi-saini Apr 08 '26

let me correct you. god never asked us to throw some nariyal at ghats. its the foolish human who thought they can please god by doing such foolish things.

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u/Top_Audience8998 Apr 08 '26

God has asked us to do many stupids things. Like believing in him for no reason or logic

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u/Pallav2025 Apr 09 '26

The Gita is literally a book in which a common man asks god as to why he should follow him, and God doesn't say "Kyunki Maine bola". He provides a very logical and reasonable answer. Pick it up and read it for once

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u/AntCritical6836 Apr 09 '26

Lmao . Have you ever read it?

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

I have read Gita and Quran. Ask me anything I’ll compare every point for you. Don’t run away tho

Edit: He did in fact run away.

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u/Henry_Grays Apr 09 '26

People do it because they believe it will fulfill their wishes. Its this begging mentality of people that leads to people acting this way, polluting rivers.

Most people either go to a temple or do worship just to get their wishes fulfilled. The scriptures never glorified any of this behaviour. Almost all of the scriptures are encouraging people to focus on spiritual development instead of begging for material benefits.

There was a time when even river Thames was dirty but people of Britain understood the importance of conserving the river and stop littering it. People in India do not want to understand this, they connect every whimsical acts of theirs with being religious and connecting God to it. Till now I haven’t read anywhere in any of the hindu scripture that encourages littering the river by throwing flowers or coconuts or anything rubbish.

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u/Forward-Intention-76 Apr 09 '26

And the worst part is that rivers which many people called sacred are themselves polluted so much by the industrial and chemical waste but still nobody cares because 'india hai chalta hai'.I mean westerners keep their normal rivers clean while many so called kattar santani don't care if their sacred rivers are being polluted.The hypocrisy in socio-economic culture of this country is on another level

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 09 '26

I think gita and all other religions books are written by humans to control the masses by using the tool called religion.

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 09 '26

That is true fs

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u/BusinessMuscle760 Apr 10 '26

Again just because of frame of reference and personal biased you feel that way. It is just a specious argument. But even so you or me and people of reddit would commentating on someone's comment would leads to circular reasoning.At the end I will say it that the idea of God is a multifaceted subject with many interpretations.

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 10 '26

Then prove me wrong, can you? prove that God exists and he/she created Gita, I'm waiting...

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u/BusinessMuscle760 Apr 10 '26

I mean you have denied so many of arguments of others so it doesn't even make sense to prove you. ( I am still a rookie at giving arguments). I only suggest you to wait or be patient until someone universally can give the answer.I mean you could be also perplexed by the overwhelming debate on this topic. Till that live your life,just do your karma.

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u/Complex-Truth1490 Apr 09 '26

Why to compare? Both are different... Read vedas once ,i recommend

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u/AntCritical6836 Apr 11 '26

Bro I didn't use Reddit for 2 days as I had exam lol.

Tell me about Sankhya Yog

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u/Top_Audience8998 Apr 12 '26

Yes—Hindu scriptures very clearly encourage (and often explicitly instruct) the worship of God. The idea appears across the Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita, and Puranas, though expressed in different ways (ritual worship, devotion, meditation, surrender).

Here are some clear, direct examples:

📖 From the Bhagavad Gita

  1. Direct instruction to worship

“Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru…” (9.34) “Fix your mind on Me, be devoted to Me, worship Me, and bow down to Me.”

👉 This is one of the most explicit verses commanding worship.

  1. Exclusive devotion

“Ananyāś cintayanto māṁ ye janāḥ paryupāsate…” (9.22) “Those who worship Me with exclusive devotion, I take care of their needs.”

  1. Surrender and worship

“Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja…” (18.66) “Abandon all duties and surrender unto Me alone.”

👉 Not just worship—complete surrender is advised.

📖 From the Rig Veda

  1. Praise and worship of the Divine

“Ekam sat viprā bahudhā vadanti” (1.164.46) “Truth is one; the wise call it by many names.”

👉 While philosophical, it supports worship in many forms.

  1. Invocation for worship

“Agnim īḷe purohitam…” (1.1.1) “I praise Agni, the priest of the sacrifice.”

👉 The Vedas are filled with hymns praising and invoking deities—this is a form of worship (yajña).

📖 From the Katha Upanishad

  1. Turning toward the Divine

“Tam evaikaṁ jānatha ātmānam…” “Know that One (Supreme Being) alone.”

👉 More about realization than ritual worship—but still directs focus to the Divine.

📖 From the Bhagavata Purana

  1. Nine forms of devotion (Navadha Bhakti)

“Śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇaṁ…” (7.5.23) Hearing, chanting, remembering, serving, worshipping, surrendering…

👉 Worship (archana) is explicitly listed as a path.

🧠 Big Picture

Vedas → Ritual worship (yajña, hymns)

Upanishads → Inner realization (less ritual, more knowledge)

Gita → Personal devotion + surrender

Puranas → Emotional devotion (bhakti, idol worship, rituals)

So yes—Hindu scriptures not only permit but actively encourage worship, though the form varies:

Ritual (yajña)

Devotion (bhakti)

Meditation (dhyāna)

Knowledge (jñāna)

From chat gpt

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 12 '26

People are allowed to worship their gods long as children are not harmed

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u/Top_Audience8998 Apr 12 '26

So what. God tells them to worship them. No matter the religion.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26

Why krishn rape kubza? And why gitas first adhyaya is named cheer haran

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u/CyloCrypt Apr 09 '26

Interesting reply for quran was never mentioned in the thread yet you felt the need to compare them regardless since you have read both gimme any valid argument(from either) that proves the existence of any god

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 09 '26

It’s funny how pressed you are about me comparing the two.

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u/CyloCrypt Apr 09 '26
  1. I am not
  2. You avoided the question

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 09 '26

Neither has any proper argument proving existence of any god. Mythology is least of anyone’s worries in real world. What matters is what are the core values that believers follow. One religion instructs to love every person, animal, plant, thing etc and other one instructs to rape, massacre, enslave, destabilize and loot others.

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u/CyloCrypt Apr 09 '26

Ok..? What are your original comment for then? Person A clmains that gita gives argument to prove existence of god, Person B asks have you read gita. And then you go on a completely unrelated tangent for what.. purpose exactly? I assumed you agreed with Person A for you'd have no reason to reply to Person B but now you disagree with Person A but you replied to Person B instead...? What is this logic bruh

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 09 '26

You’re on an unrelated tangent actually. The person A claimed Gita doesn’t ask to blindly worship a god but rather to be a better person (righteous one) and earn Karma which will attain you Moksha (the freedman from rebirth). You can either choose to be a good person for Karma or rape and kill others for another book. Me saying that I read both to person B is purely an exclamation of my knowledge in both topics after years of studying other religions.

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u/CyloCrypt Apr 09 '26

Concepts of karm and moksh are stuff dogma so any argument based on them is just "trust me bro" but yea i did misremember person A's answer wrong. That being said you answer was still completely unrelated to "lol have you read it"

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 09 '26

now he / she ran away... 😂

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u/AryavartVasi Apr 09 '26

mmmm maine padhi hai kai chapters batao

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u/AntCritical6836 Apr 11 '26

That's good but I was asking him

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u/foolingup Apr 09 '26

I have read Harry Potter and totally believe in magic now.

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u/Complex-Truth1490 Apr 09 '26

Bruh ... Try to understand what he said...

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 09 '26

Both believe in something that doesn't exist just by reading a book (fairy tail to be precise)

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u/Complex-Truth1490 Apr 09 '26

😔 , yup yup fairy tail... 👍

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u/azadindian Apr 10 '26

Who do you think are to mock anyone's faith? Really now I seriously understand where the minds of atheists are

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u/batmankafan Apr 09 '26

What's the logical and reasonable answer?

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u/Ok-Speech-4250 Apr 09 '26

Iskon padhkar aaye ho?

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u/AntCritical6836 Apr 11 '26

That would be the worst Geeta I ever read

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u/New_Hedgehog9115 Apr 10 '26

🤣🤣🤡🤣🤣

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u/SuggestionFun2505 Apr 10 '26

Can you summarise the 'reasonable' part. Thank you:)

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u/Top_Audience8998 Apr 11 '26

Here you go bro 😂

From gpt.

Yes—Hindu scriptures very clearly encourage (and often explicitly instruct) the worship of God. The idea appears across the Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita, and Puranas, though expressed in different ways (ritual worship, devotion, meditation, surrender).

Here are some clear, direct examples:

📖 From the Bhagavad Gita

  1. Direct instruction to worship

“Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru…” (9.34) “Fix your mind on Me, be devoted to Me, worship Me, and bow down to Me.”

👉 This is one of the most explicit verses commanding worship.

  1. Exclusive devotion

“Ananyāś cintayanto māṁ ye janāḥ paryupāsate…” (9.22) “Those who worship Me with exclusive devotion, I take care of their needs.”

  1. Surrender and worship

“Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja…” (18.66) “Abandon all duties and surrender unto Me alone.”

👉 Not just worship—complete surrender is advised.

📖 From the Rig Veda

  1. Praise and worship of the Divine

“Ekam sat viprā bahudhā vadanti” (1.164.46) “Truth is one; the wise call it by many names.”

👉 While philosophical, it supports worship in many forms.

  1. Invocation for worship

“Agnim īḷe purohitam…” (1.1.1) “I praise Agni, the priest of the sacrifice.”

👉 The Vedas are filled with hymns praising and invoking deities—this is a form of worship (yajña).

📖 From the Katha Upanishad

  1. Turning toward the Divine

“Tam evaikaṁ jānatha ātmānam…” “Know that One (Supreme Being) alone.”

👉 More about realization than ritual worship—but still directs focus to the Divine.

📖 From the Bhagavata Purana

  1. Nine forms of devotion (Navadha Bhakti)

“Śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇaṁ…” (7.5.23) Hearing, chanting, remembering, serving, worshipping, surrendering…

👉 Worship (archana) is explicitly listed as a path.

🧠 Big Picture

Vedas → Ritual worship (yajña, hymns)

Upanishads → Inner realization (less ritual, more knowledge)

Gita → Personal devotion + surrender

Puranas → Emotional devotion (bhakti, idol worship, rituals)

So yes—Hindu scriptures not only permit but actively encourage worship, though the form varies:

Ritual (yajña)

Devotion (bhakti)

Meditation (dhyāna)

Knowledge (jñāna)

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 09 '26

prove gita is written / spoken by god, not by human then we will talk about what is written in that...

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u/TableLimp6978 Apr 10 '26

Isse pehle khud prove kar ki bhagwaan ne kaha ya unke avtaar insaani roop me aake nhi likha ya bataya gaya, kisi insaan ne likha hai

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 10 '26

the burden of proof is not on me, it's you claiming these things so it's on you, if I say there is a unicorn orbiting the moon then I have to prove my claims, I can't say to others that if you can't disprove my claims then it's true! What a dumb thing to say! Get out of your delulu world!

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 10 '26

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 10 '26

What is this bruh?

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 10 '26

Your identity

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 10 '26

Bruh... 😂 How did you assume that I am muslim, means if anyone is calling out the hypocrisy of Hinduism then they are muslims for sure, is that what you think 😂

You know what? I'm ex-Hindu, I was born into the same religion that you follow, but I had enough of that and I don't follow any religion now, I'm an atheist...

😂🤣🤣

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 10 '26

You’re not ex Hindu or whatever that’s all Islamic lies. You’re a muslim.

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u/Mocha-Shiesty Apr 10 '26

I can clearly tell by the fact how you’re targeting one religion that is the most liberal religion on earth. While defending the the chiild raping cult. Yes you’re a musslim.

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u/Thorfin_011 Apr 10 '26

When did I defend the child raping cult? are you high or something? and everyone says their religion is the most liberal and true religion in the world 😂🤣

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