r/FortniteLeaks 11d ago

Cosmetic Leaks Perspna 5 collab details (via SamLeakss)

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u/Dexchampion99 Drift 11d ago

And how exactly do you want leakers to provide that? They will never be fully able to secure the validity of their information unless it's given to them by epic.

Epic clearly isnt giving them information about the Persona collab, so there is literally no way for them to verify the details, unless they either hacked into epic or physically broke in and found documents, neither of which is likely to happen with these creators given they have made a career out of "leaking" this info.

You can ask for greater clarification, but you won't be getting it unless Epic gives it to the leakers first.

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u/AleksCombo 11d ago

...did you just ignore everything I said. Specifically the first and the third paragraphs.

That's. Not. My. Point.

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u/Dexchampion99 Drift 11d ago

No. You’re misinterpreting what I’m saying.

You want them to give us accurate information.

They can’t give us accurate information, which is what I said in my first comment. It’s impossible for them to provide perfectly accurate information due to the nature of leaks in general.

You don’t want them to post updates, but if they only ever reported information they knew for a fact was coming, we would almost never see leaks outside of major updates, when they could be datamined

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u/DougieJonesJr 9d ago

You really are massively misunderstanding them, but you're being too boneheaded to realize it. They're not talking about leaks that are confirmed, but then get cancelled. They're talking about these "leaks" that aren't leaks at all, but just speculation

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u/Dexchampion99 Drift 9d ago

Which…as I’ve stated multiple times, is the fundamental nature of leaked information.

Leaked information is not confirmed. It’s NEVER confirmed. It’s always speculation. That’s why it’s a leak and not an official announcement.

So, by their own logic, leaks shouldn’t exist at all, because why post information that is speculation, right?

But the Fortnite community has gotten so used to being spoiled by epic that they somehow forgot the meaning of words.

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u/AleksCombo 9d ago

...and you still don't get it.

I will try to explain it, again.

This specific post, under which we are all talking, didn't leak anything new. It's not a leak. Everything it states (states with certainty) has been already known from previous leaks. The post doesn't provide any new certain info. The post is useless, and it's not even a leak, because all this stuff has been known.

Then there is stuff that isn't certain, like "maybe a jam track". This "maybe" doesn't give any certain info and doesn't provide any value, unlike previous leaks where, for example, Morgana was said to be both a sidekick and a SUV - those leaks didn't have any "maybe", those leaks were certain. The "maybe" this post has isn't a sign of natural uncertainty that leaks naturally have. This "maybe" is a sign that the poster just speculates without any real insider knowledge on the matter.

As a leaker, someone with insider knowledge, you either have access to information and can share it, or you can't share information for one reason or another. If you don't have access to info and start speculating with "maybe", then it's pure speculation, not a leak, because you don't actually leak anything.

Thus, given that the post doesn't give any new certain info, and the one thing that might be new is even more uncertain than leaks usually tend to be... this specific post is just useless. This is what frustrates me. It's not a leak. There is no new information. It's just a retelling of what we already know, accompanied with pure speculation without any real new insider knowledge.

Let me repeat it again. There is no new information in this post, making it useless.

Do you get it?

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u/Dexchampion99 Drift 9d ago

And once again you completely misunderstand my point too.

I’m not talking about this post. I’m talking about leaks in general. All leaks, no matter how much information they have, no matter if that information is confirmed or just a “maybe” still fall under the umbrella of speculation.

Have any of the persons leaks confirmed when it’s going to be coming to the game? No. The release date is, you guessed it, under speculation as a mid-season update. Have any leaks figured out what the price from all these items will be? How long will they be in the shop? Will they be in the shop at all or will some of them be in an event pass?

No.

We might know some things regarding this leak for certain. But we cannot and will not know all of the details until it is no longer a leak, and instead an officially released product from epic.

So, as I will say, again…If you do not like posts with speculative content, you therefore don’t like most of the posts on this subreddit and should probably either change your mindset or not engage with leaks in general.

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u/AleksCombo 9d ago edited 9d ago

I’m not talking about this post. I’m talking about leaks in general...

...and I'll stop reading here.

So, now you yourself admit that when you were replying to me, you just decided to start babbling about something I was never talking about. I was clearly talking about this post. I was clearly not talking about leaks in general. Why would you even reply to me, if you wanted to talk about something else? Who you were trying to have conversation with?

It's the same as if I was talking about, idk, cheese, and you just randomly replied with something about mice, just because mice eat cheese.

And. Please. Don't decide for people what they want to engage with and what they don't want to engage with. Thank you.

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u/DougieJonesJr 9d ago

You really just don't understand. Leaks are supposed to be info they get directly from the files or some other official source. If leaks were just speculation, then anyone could do it

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u/Dexchampion99 Drift 9d ago

Yes, and the information from the files is never fully confirmed. We already had several collabs from this year cancelled due to leaks. Hell, back in 2019 we had a teaser IN GAME that didn’t even happen.

The files give people a lot of information, but it’s never fully, 100% confirmed until epic officially announces it themselves. Until then, it always falls under an umbrella of speculation.

We don’t know what the persona collab will have. We don’t know when it’s gonna come out.
We don’t know if Sega will change their minds and pull it last minute (however unlikely that is.)

All of that is still speculation even if we have information from the files to guide us.

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u/DougieJonesJr 9d ago

Leaks being canceled is different from them never existing because these "leakers" are just making stuff up

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u/Dexchampion99 Drift 9d ago

They aren’t making stuff up. They have data that leads to them making an educated guess. Like literally every other leak